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turtlepi1

Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:42 pm Post subject: Verbs, senses, word origins, roots |
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My boss is really interested in blueprinting words (verbs).
Basically that all verbs are contained within HAVE/BE/DO.
Anyway the reason I am posting is I am sure there are reading materials about this sort of thing but I am not really sure where to start looking.
Any thoughts? |
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whatthefunk

Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Dont have a clue
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont understand.... |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Just get a blue pen, and don't write joined up- piece of cake. |
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turtlepi1

Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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I feel like that on a daily basis.
The theory is
BE
HAVE
DO
Ok, now the word GO. Which of the three does it spawn from? In this example the answer is DO.
Then the word GO spawns other words in a similar manner... |
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whatthefunk

Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Dont have a clue
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| Jesus your boss has way to much time on his hands. How the *beep* did you get go from do? And what does it matter? Your boss is the third anti christ of boredom. Kill him now. Save himself and all of us the trouble. |
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phaedrus

Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:23 am Post subject: |
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It's a bit arbitrary isn't it?
For origins you'd best consult the Oxford English Dictionary. The big multiple volume one. See if your boss will spring for it. |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not sure I fully get where your boss is going with this, but I got reasonably deeply into word origins and stuff in university. Trust me, this is not a project for a bored Korean guy and an ESLer trying to keep his job. Historical linguistics is kind of an obscure field but it's intense all th same. |
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turtlepi1

Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:05 am Post subject: |
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It's his life project.
He's been working on it ten years.
He's studied Philosophy, Mathematics, English, Religious Studies
at various universities in Korea, England and (maybe) America (I don't listen that well.)
It's a crazy system that I have no interest in learning but he is uncanny in figuring out which is the appropriate verb even in the ones native speakers have trouble in explaining...(His spoken english could use a little work but his Konglish is non existent...) and is able to explain exactly why... |
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Mashimaro

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: location, location
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure it all makes sense after 3 bottles of soju  |
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Zed

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Shakedown Street
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| Can you give us an example for ones that contain 'have' and 'be'? |
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J.B. Clamence

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:44 am Post subject: Re: Verbs, senses, word origins, roots |
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"Have", "be", and "do" are Anglo-Saxon in origin, as are many verbs in English, such as "ask" and "speak". But how is it possible that Latin-based verbs like "determine" and "compensate" are based on Anglo-Saxon verbs? Was Rome founded by Beowulf?
Sorry for sounding so sceptical, but it sounds like your boss is a bit confused. A mind is a terrible thing to develop without help. |
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turtlepi1

Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Verbs, senses, word origins, roots |
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| J.B. Clamence wrote: |
"Have", "be", and "do" are Anglo-Saxon in origin, as are many verbs in English, such as "ask" and "speak". But how is it possible that Latin-based verbs like "determine" and "compensate" are based on Anglo-Saxon verbs? Was Rome founded by Beowulf?
Sorry for sounding so sceptical, but it sounds like your boss is a bit confused. A mind is a terrible thing to develop without help. |
This was the route I took to get him to leave me alone for a day or so.
I explained that Korean (written at least) is a relatively new language. Many of the new words in the language are made to sound like their english counterparts. How could these possibly relate to original root words.
But the problem is he brings philosophy into it and how general words lead to more specific words...which lead to more specific words...it's driving me mad.  |
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peemil

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Location: Koowoompa
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm still looking. Can I get a "root" here? |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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i would beat up my boss if he bugged me to do something like this.
"hey, i'm paying you around 2 million won a month, care to be my research partner in a project that amounts to moving sand dunes with tweezers?"
nah brah. |
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turtlepi1

Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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"I iron the clothes, do the laundry and go shopping for the household items."
Why do I use do for laundry and go for shopping?
Under his theory by tearing apart go and finding the "exact" meaning of go (which is not the same as the dictionary definition) it's usage will become plain. While there is some truth to what he says it is sheer madness.
Everyday there is a new work he is working on and guess who he wants to bounce his thought process off.
I only work 40-70 hours a month (Classroom time) for 2.0M so I guess I shouldn't complain but I am required to be there for 7-8 hours a day. Sitting around is WAY worse for me than teaching classes.
Especially when I want to stick hot pokers in my ears every time he sits down next to me.  |
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