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Verbs, senses, word origins, roots
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turtlepi1



Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:42 pm    Post subject: Verbs, senses, word origins, roots Reply with quote

My boss is really interested in blueprinting words (verbs).
Basically that all verbs are contained within HAVE/BE/DO.

Anyway the reason I am posting is I am sure there are reading materials about this sort of thing but I am not really sure where to start looking.

Any thoughts?
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whatthefunk



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Dont have a clue

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont understand....
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get a blue pen, and don't write joined up- piece of cake.
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turtlepi1



Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE

PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like that on a daily basis.

The theory is

BE
HAVE
DO

Ok, now the word GO. Which of the three does it spawn from? In this example the answer is DO.

Then the word GO spawns other words in a similar manner...
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whatthefunk



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus your boss has way to much time on his hands. How the *beep* did you get go from do? And what does it matter? Your boss is the third anti christ of boredom. Kill him now. Save himself and all of us the trouble.
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit arbitrary isn't it?



For origins you'd best consult the Oxford English Dictionary. The big multiple volume one. See if your boss will spring for it.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure I fully get where your boss is going with this, but I got reasonably deeply into word origins and stuff in university. Trust me, this is not a project for a bored Korean guy and an ESLer trying to keep his job. Historical linguistics is kind of an obscure field but it's intense all th same.
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turtlepi1



Joined: 15 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's his life project. Smile

He's been working on it ten years.
He's studied Philosophy, Mathematics, English, Religious Studies
at various universities in Korea, England and (maybe) America (I don't listen that well.)

It's a crazy system that I have no interest in learning but he is uncanny in figuring out which is the appropriate verb even in the ones native speakers have trouble in explaining...(His spoken english could use a little work but his Konglish is non existent...) and is able to explain exactly why...
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure it all makes sense after 3 bottles of soju Smile
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Zed



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you give us an example for ones that contain 'have' and 'be'?
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: Verbs, senses, word origins, roots Reply with quote

"Have", "be", and "do" are Anglo-Saxon in origin, as are many verbs in English, such as "ask" and "speak". But how is it possible that Latin-based verbs like "determine" and "compensate" are based on Anglo-Saxon verbs? Was Rome founded by Beowulf?

Sorry for sounding so sceptical, but it sounds like your boss is a bit confused. A mind is a terrible thing to develop without help.
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turtlepi1



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Verbs, senses, word origins, roots Reply with quote

J.B. Clamence wrote:
"Have", "be", and "do" are Anglo-Saxon in origin, as are many verbs in English, such as "ask" and "speak". But how is it possible that Latin-based verbs like "determine" and "compensate" are based on Anglo-Saxon verbs? Was Rome founded by Beowulf?

Sorry for sounding so sceptical, but it sounds like your boss is a bit confused. A mind is a terrible thing to develop without help.


This was the route I took to get him to leave me alone for a day or so.
I explained that Korean (written at least) is a relatively new language. Many of the new words in the language are made to sound like their english counterparts. How could these possibly relate to original root words.

But the problem is he brings philosophy into it and how general words lead to more specific words...which lead to more specific words...it's driving me mad. Evil or Very Mad
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peemil



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still looking. Can I get a "root" here?
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would beat up my boss if he bugged me to do something like this.

"hey, i'm paying you around 2 million won a month, care to be my research partner in a project that amounts to moving sand dunes with tweezers?"

nah brah.
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turtlepi1



Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE

PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I iron the clothes, do the laundry and go shopping for the household items."

Why do I use do for laundry and go for shopping?

Under his theory by tearing apart go and finding the "exact" meaning of go (which is not the same as the dictionary definition) it's usage will become plain. While there is some truth to what he says it is sheer madness.

Everyday there is a new work he is working on and guess who he wants to bounce his thought process off.

I only work 40-70 hours a month (Classroom time) for 2.0M so I guess I shouldn't complain but I am required to be there for 7-8 hours a day. Sitting around is WAY worse for me than teaching classes.

Especially when I want to stick hot pokers in my ears every time he sits down next to me. Evil or Very Mad
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