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GottaBeKD
Joined: 13 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 8:35 am Post subject: Canadian Citizenship |
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Here's a new question that may not get answered but hey, it's worth a shot.
I heard of a plan today, my a korean couple... The wife is pregnant, and their plan is to go to Canada for a week, give birth to their baby, and come home to Korea.
Just being there a week - and giving birth in Canada - will gain their child Canadian citzenship and a Canadian passport?
No way! Is it really so easy? I would think every pregnant woman would be giving birth in Canada. |
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Stunted Wookie
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Sound Studio
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 8:51 am Post subject: child |
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A child is a citizen of the country they are born in...
However its very expensive to have a child in another country...but yeah you can do it.
My wife gave birth in Canada therefore our son is Canadian....$3000+ cdn.
I am Canadian and that was the cost for my wife who is not!!!!!!
Note there are restrictions on how late in term a woman can fly, subject to the airlines; also customs/ imm. might not let you in .....better to go in a few months earlier.
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 8:55 am Post subject: Re: child |
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| Stunted Wookie wrote: |
| A child is a citizen of the country they are born in... |
Many (and I believe most) countries do not grant automatic citizenship simply because a person was born there. |
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Hank Scorpio
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 10:16 am Post subject: Re: child |
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| Gord wrote: |
| Stunted Wookie wrote: |
| A child is a citizen of the country they are born in... |
Many (and I believe most) countries do not grant automatic citizenship simply because a person was born there. |
Canada and the US (and I believe the UK also, but I could be wrong) do also, and guess what? Those are three of the biggies for countries you want to be a citizen of. It's a big problem in the US right now, we have a lot of illegal immigrants crossing the border to give birth, because if the child's a citizen you can't keep it's non-citizen parents out of the country can you? It's an easy way to stay here legally.
I can't say I blame people for doing it, but it's a pretty shoddy way to get citizenship. Supposedly there's a bill going through congress right now that would make it necessary that at least one parent be either a citizen, or a resident alien in order for the child to become a citizen. I don't think it'll pass, though, both party's want the hispanic vote too badly. |
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Canadian Teacher
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: child |
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| Gord wrote: |
| Stunted Wookie wrote: |
| A child is a citizen of the country they are born in... |
Many (and I believe most) countries do not grant automatic citizenship simply because a person was born there. |
I have intimate knowledge of this as both my children were born in Korea. To complicate matters, my wife is not Korean or Canadian.
You do not have to go to Canada, you would simply be wasting your time and money, not to mention the stress on your wife and child. Simply have the birth in Korea. Contrary to the horror stories you here, the service is good. Get the doctor to issue a birth certificate in English with the child's name on it (very important, Korean certificates do not have the child's name). Get a passport application and an application for Canadian Citizenship. Send the (or go to) the Canadian Embassy with your proof of Canadian citizenship. Pay W170,000 (ouch). The passport will come in ten days. The citizenship card will take up to six months. They check documents very carefully now.
If your spouce is Korean, the child will have Korean citizenship. The child cannot have dual, so at age 18, he/she must choose.
Good luck, catch up on your sleep because for a year, you will not get any. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: child |
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| Gord wrote: |
| Stunted Wookie wrote: |
| A child is a citizen of the country they are born in... |
Many (and I believe most) countries do not grant automatic citizenship simply because a person was born there. |
Yes, only the foolish and short-sighted ones do. |
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William Beckerson
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah, lord knows we dont want them foreigners dirtying up our streets with their doing the crap jobs we wont... |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Run Forrest Run wrote: |
| yeah, lord knows we dont want them foreigners dirtying up our streets with their doing the crap jobs we wont... |
The jolly PC quipmaster strikes again.
1. Many jus sanguinis nations (including the one in which we reside as non-citizens) have foreigners doing "crap jobs". And I'm not referring to babysitting in a hogwon.
2. Just because one cannot magically obtain citizenship by virtue of being born five feet on the "right side" of a national border does not mean that one is forever precluded from obtaining citizenship of that nation.
3. Women who have the means to fly halfway across the world to spawn their brood in Canada or the U.S. generally are not the type of foreigners doing the crap jobs we won't. Nor will their children be.
4. Citizenship should be granted to those non-citizens who are able and willing to contribute to their new nation as citizens with undivided loyalties. This is generally not true of infants or of their parents who shout "Fscking USA!" out of one side of their mouth while giving birth in the U.S. so that their child can (1) avoid military service; (2) obtain a decent tertiary education; and (3) serve as an anchor for his non-citizen relatives. Perhaps "Fscking USA!" is meant to be taken literally... |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'm kind of the same boat but different...
I was born in Canada and thus I have canadian citizenship until the day I die unless I formally reliquish it.
However my parents moved back to New Zealand when I was a lil one... Because my dad is a kiwi I filled out form paid some money and and got a nice certificate in the mail saying that I'm not a kiwi...
We looked into doing the reverse for my younger sibilings so that they could also become dual citizens but there is some mention of 'proving' ties whether it be bank accounts or whatever and to cut a long story the longer you leave it the harder its going to be.. a lot of commonwealth countries bought in new citizenship laws in 1977 they generally grant you automatic citizenship if you are born there (not the aussies), or if your parents are citizens not by descent (ie I can't pass new zealand citizenship to any children I would have)... your offspring have until their early 20s to sort it out but I would recommend doing it ASAP.
Call up the canadian embassy as they will have better details than me but I hope is it of assistance.
CLG |
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sickboy
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Location: Miari Texas
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| That's why preganant women aren't allowed inside American Embassies. It is considered to be US soil, so any child born there is considered to be an American citizien. Apparently used to be a big problem in some countries! |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| I don't know what its like for Canada.. but its been such a big problem in the USA that they will refuse a pregnant woman a visa to visit the States during that time.. not sure if Canada does that yet.. |
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Mowie
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:38 am Post subject: |
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It is my understanding that the children born from a foreign male and Korean female could not become Korean Citizens. However, If the father is Korean and the mother is a foreigner , the children could become eligible for citizenship. Apparently, this is related to the importance of tracing lineage and other B.S.
Is there any truth to this? |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| Mowie wrote: |
It is my understanding that the children born from a foreign male and Korean female could not become Korean Citizens. However, If the father is Korean and the mother is a foreigner , the children could become eligible for citizenship. Apparently, this is related to the importance of tracing lineage and other B.S.
Is there any truth to this? |
No, this is false. My daughter is a Korean-born product of a Korean female and foreign male (me) and holds Korean and Canadian dual citizenship, for now. The Korean citizenship thing was a gesture to the Korean side of the family, but we' ve never bothered to use her Korean passport anywhere, Even when she enters Korea she does so as a Canadian.
The Canadians would be okay with her dual-citizenship status forever, but it's the Koreans who will make her choose one or the other when she's 18.
Child number two, born in May, is only Canadian, because her parents were too lazy to register with the Koreans now that we're living outside Korea.
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:48 am Post subject: Re: child |
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| Canadian Teacher wrote: |
| Gord wrote: |
| Stunted Wookie wrote: |
| A child is a citizen of the country they are born in... |
Many (and I believe most) countries do not grant automatic citizenship simply because a person was born there. |
I have intimate knowledge of this as both my children were born in Korea. To complicate matters, my wife is not Korean or Canadian.
You do not have to go to Canada, you would simply be wasting your time and money, not to mention the stress on your wife and child. Simply have the birth in Korea. Contrary to the horror stories you here, the service is good. Get the doctor to issue a birth certificate in English with the child's name on it (very important, Korean certificates do not have the child's name). Get a passport application and an application for Canadian Citizenship. Send the (or go to) the Canadian Embassy with your proof of Canadian citizenship. Pay W170,000 (ouch). The passport will come in ten days. The citizenship card will take up to six months. They check documents very carefully now.
If your spouce is Korean, the child will have Korean citizenship. The child cannot have dual, so at age 18, he/she must choose.
Good luck, catch up on your sleep because for a year, you will not get any. |
This is irrelevant. Both the parents are Korean, that's why they want to go to Canada to do it. |
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