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Most annoying thing your students do?
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What typical behavior annoys you the most in class?
The dong chimm
23%
 23%  [ 11 ]
saying "bye bye" and putting their bags on to leave 15 minutes early
30%
 30%  [ 14 ]
taking pictures/playing with cellphones
8%
 8%  [ 4 ]
eating spicy ramyen and then demanding to go to the bathroom
15%
 15%  [ 7 ]
kids singing the "f**king USA" song
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
climbing on the desks or window sills (dangerous)
8%
 8%  [ 4 ]
kids never staying in their chairs
13%
 13%  [ 6 ]
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miryum wrote:
"I have several low level adult classes, which have no textbook. I am supposed to photocopy stuff for them a week in advance so they can have a chance to look stuff over. A good idea in theory, but what happens is that on Monday 5 students show up, I give out the "text" for the week and we proceed with class. On Tuesday, half of them don't show up, but I have to continue on regardless..."

Yup I have the exact same problem! I'm teaching adults too & my morning classes are supposed to be a level lower than the afternoon classes. But it's never that straightforward. Students basically come to whatever class they want, and even if they do come to the supposedly 'right' level, there is a massive gulf between the abilities of the better students in the class and the rest. Also class size varies from about 6 students to one or two.

Cause of all this, It's really hard to pitch lessons at the right level. I feel some students find the material fine, while others aren't challenged. I've no textbook either - I feel your frustration!


Buy a book or two and make photocopies before class or have something extra ready in case only one or two show up and you don't want to continue with material the absentees will miss.

Also tell the manager or director or boss or whoever, it is your class and you will run it the way you want. (in Nicer terms i guess)... anyone superior who fails to grasp this is not fit to work for.
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Most annoying thing your students do? Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
Personally i rank the dong chimm as the all-time most intensely irritating thing a child can do...a garuanteed immediate short cut to an angry reaction...



Wow. Those things on your list. You mean that ALL of those things happen in your classes. How often? In my 6 years in Korea, like most natives in a college or university situation, 50% of my classes are college/university students, and 50% are children.

I have had pre-school thru High school students. These things have never happened in my classes. I love my kids classes the most. They are such a joy to teach. I look forward to them starting and am sad when they end. I also do vounteer work/"teaching" with kids and find it most rewarding. Especially my volunteer work with storybooks.

And, whenever I am in a situation to either teach kids in a break program, or have a longer vacation time, I always choose to teach in the kids break progarms. And no, it's not for the overtime pay. I don't particcularly care that much about money. I try to live a meager life, and what I have left over, I give to those who need it more than I do.

And it is so rewarding to see how fast and much kids can learn and in such a short period of time. And Korean kids, in my opinion, are so much more repsectful to teachers than in The USA. It is also a joy to see how a class can form a community like relationship. There is a lot of love in those classes.

What kinds of activities do you do? Maybe I can help by sharing a few "tips" later. But I have to run now.

Ciao Wink

Chicken
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nasigoreng



Joined: 14 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

* Responding with "WHY" when the teacher calls their name.

-It's the arrogant tone they say it with that really gets me boiling:
WHyyYYyy? As in "why are you interupting my conversation with my friend?"
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Wisco Kid



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now my big complaint is kids who ask me questions in Korean. They've seen me for 4 months and never heard me speak anything other than English and still just about every class I get asked half a dozen questions in Korean.

Now I just respond "blah-blah blah-blah, blah-blah blah-yo"

They get a laugh and catch on that I don't understand what they asked, but do they ask me in English the next time?................nah.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nasigoreng wrote:
* Responding with "WHY" when the teacher calls their name.

-It's the arrogant tone they say it with that really gets me boiling:
WHyyYYyy? As in "why are you interupting my conversation with my friend?"


Wrong interpretation. Its a conventional response in Korean.
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thorin



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
Definantly the putting on bags thing.

This usually goes along with teacher, what time is it???


It's English time!!!!
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropping their pencil every 30 seconds.

Throwing the eraser to each other and never catching it!

Looking at the board at the same time as writing. Korean kids seem to think this is a perfectly acceptable practice. Not looking at what you're writing!! No!

Using ever more mind-boggling pencil cases that take forever to open and close. And they have built-in games! Thanks pencil-case makers!!!

The new student who sits looking bewildered and assumes because he's new he doesn't have to do anything.

Casually writing stuff on their desks....I mean...Is that okay here??!!! Do all Koreans write on the furniture or is it only in hagwons??
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marista99



Joined: 05 Jun 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) MIMICKING. And apparently it never gets old--the other kids crack up every time one of them does it.
2) Packing up bags early.
3) Pretty much ignoring anything I say, even if I know they understand.
4) How hard is it to keep your butt on a chair for 10 minutes at a time?
5) The word "teacher!" --the younger kids say it to get my attention and then it's like they have no idea what to say next, or they weren't planning to say anything, they just wanted me to look at them, or something...after a standard Kindy class I can't get the word "teacher" to stop echoing in my head. Yeah, I'm going insane.
6) Heads down on desks--I say "(name), sit up!" like 30 times per class in the middle school levels.

Man, I sound really bitter. I actually like my job in general...but this is the stuff that drives me crazy. Thank goodness, the dong chim thing isn't a problem. I guess my boss told all the classes that foreigners find it really offensive and threatened them with spankings or something, because they never do it when I'm around. Smile
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Lizara



Joined: 14 Apr 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) When I start the class and they continue their discussions in Korean while totally ignoring me.
2) Starting to pack up before class is finished.
3) When I walk into a class and am assaulted by six students at once wanting to show me homework or explain why their homework isn't done or show me their new toy or whatever. Along the same lines, whining because I don't immediately stop what I've doing to help with whatever it is they want help with. Asking me for help with question 6 when we're doing the page as a class and we're still on question 2.
4) When my kindergarten students get upset about something minor and put their heads down on the desk and refuse to do anything, and then ask me twenty minutes later why they don't have as many happy faces as everyone else. Get your head up off your desk and start EARNING some happy faces.
5) Again with the kindergartners: Sam starts repeating everything Ben says, and then two minutes later Peter starts repeating everything Sam says, and Sam immediately gets upset and cries. "Teeeeacherrrr! Peter is follow me!"
6) WHY can they not stay in their chairs???
7) Most of mine have no sense of personal responsibility. If I take away their toy, of course it's because I'm a mean teacher and don't like them and has nothing to do with the fact that I'd already told them fourteen times to put it away.

I could go on, but it's really all just basic courtesy/realizing you're not the only student in the school type of stuff. I know they're just kids, but you'd think after seven months (if not more) of me responding negatively to this sort of behaviour, that they might get the point that it's not working so well for them and maybe they should try something else. Sigh. It's been a long week...
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Wisco Kid



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It's English time!!!!



Hey, you stole my line! Surprised
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Wisco Kid



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have space heaters in the classrooms at my hagwon. I turn mine on cuz it's frickin' cold. The kid sitting next to it is wearing his coat and turns off the heater because he's hot.

Take off your coat moron!

Evil or Very Mad
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d503



Joined: 16 Oct 2004
Location: Daecheong, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:24 am    Post subject: ugh Reply with quote

the dong chime thing is the worse but I have a couple of other complaints.
1) desks too close to the board, all the k-teachers classrooms have the desks set up literally a foot away from the board with kids sitting on the board side of them, this only facilitates the dong chiming (on a happy side not I scared the *beep* out of one little kid by grabbing his arm mid chime, and dragging him to the wall to stand with a firm statement about why you don't touch my ass in class.)
2)rifling through my shit. No matter how many times I tell the kids, the k-teachers tell them, the directors tell them- they go through my stuff-cabinets, purse, backpack, pockets-pisses the hell out of me, not to mention that a watch, some money, candy, stickers, paper, pencils, and more have gone missing.
3)crying and then getting what they want. I am sorry but that is just so messed up. It undermines my authority, it puts the offender in a position of power, and it just makes no sense.
4)This thankfully has not happened again but I had a kid spit in class. And I am talking full and frothy made a three inch puddle on the floor, which I made him clean up, and then whilst clean he spit like that 2 more times. I used terror tactics on the little shit and it worked, dragged him out to the hall in an extremely fast manner and explained what I thought of people who spit, and that if I ever so much as caught him sucking snot up his nose he would spend the next 2 weeks of class in the hallway on his knees writing. he has not spit again, and is very cautious about his bodily habits around me.
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Ihavenolips



Joined: 22 Sep 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazymaisey wrote:
What exactly is "The dong chimm" Question


Curious about dong chims? Check out the link below:
http://www.ajarn.com/Contris/kenmaynovember2004.htm

It is funny how all of you seem to be teaching the same children that I do. Dong chims are the most annoying, a close second is reaching into my pocket to grab a marker pen to waste on whiteboard drawings of human turds. Lately, the remedy for all classroom problems in exercise. A dong chim is thirty pushups, falling over in a chair is 15 squats, spitting on the classroom floor equals lifting a chair over your head for five minutes. Exercise works for now, but I know it will only buy time for about one month worth of discipline.
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trevorcollins



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having a kid sitting on a chair suddenly falling off it for no apparent reason seems to cause utter chaos and happens all too regularly. *beep* cultural differences this one is just out and out stupidity.
Would have to rank the ddong chim as being by far the most offensive though. Thankfully it's pretty rare. Again screw the comments about cultural insensitivity. Maybe it is a part of the Korean way of life, but unless I'm dating someone if they stick anything on any of my orifices they're gonna end up on their ass. Be they 3 or 83 years old.
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marista99



Joined: 05 Jun 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Most annoying thing your students do? Reply with quote

Kwangjuchicken wrote:
rapier wrote:
Personally i rank the dong chimm as the all-time most intensely irritating thing a child can do...a garuanteed immediate short cut to an angry reaction...



Wow. Those things on your list. You mean that ALL of those things happen in your classes. How often? In my 6 years in Korea, like most natives in a college or university situation, 50% of my classes are college/university students, and 50% are children.

I have had pre-school thru High school students. These things have never happened in my classes. I love my kids classes the most. They are such a joy to teach. I look forward to them starting and am sad when they end. I also do vounteer work/"teaching" with kids and find it most rewarding. Especially my volunteer work with storybooks.

And, whenever I am in a situation to either teach kids in a break program, or have a longer vacation time, I always choose to teach in the kids break progarms. And no, it's not for the overtime pay. I don't particcularly care that much about money. I try to live a meager life, and what I have left over, I give to those who need it more than I do.

And it is so rewarding to see how fast and much kids can learn and in such a short period of time. And Korean kids, in my opinion, are so much more repsectful to teachers than in The USA. It is also a joy to see how a class can form a community like relationship. There is a lot of love in those classes.

What kinds of activities do you do? Maybe I can help by sharing a few "tips" later. But I have to run now.

Ciao Wink

Chicken


Is this a joke?
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