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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea
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 Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject: here toooo |
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| peppergirl wrote: |
| Hotel Cheonan wrote: |
| Since I have been working at a university I've only seen two women smoking on campus. The second one was only a couple of weeks ago. |
Try walking near the art/music departments  |
In the back of the Art's Building is where most smoke her, also my students tell me, that this is where the lesbians hangout. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
| Why do Koreans smoke so much in the first place? |
I think a good reason is because it is so cheap here. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| But not smoking at all is even cheaper, no? |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
But not smoking at all is even cheaper, no?
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Very true.
However, lets just say a pack of cigarettes cost 8000 won instead of 2000 won. I'm sure less people would smoke. |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| in England it's about 10,000 won for a pack, and lots of people still do it. There has been some evidence to suggest that nicotine might be addictive you know.. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Swiss james wrote: |
in England it's about 10,000 won for a pack, and lots of people still do it. There has been some evidence to suggest that nicotine might be addictive you know..
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Point taken guys.
However, there must be some study that shows correlation between price increases and levels of smoking. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| just because wrote: |
| Swiss james wrote: |
in England it's about 10,000 won for a pack, and lots of people still do it. There has been some evidence to suggest that nicotine might be addictive you know..
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Point taken guys.
However, there must be some study that shows correlation between price increases and levels of smoking. |
Absolutely. It's the reason cigarette companies fight tax increases tooth and nail. Nothing motivates people to quite like a hit at the pocket book. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:19 am Post subject: |
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I'm not disagreeing with Just Because; I know there's a very clear correlation between price of cigarettes and rates of quitting.
I'm more interested in what it is about Koreans that prompts them to smoke in the first place. I think it's something besides the fact that it is a relatively low-cost addiction to indulge in. |
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| Just another aspect of the Confucian brainwashing that refuses to go away. In the simplistic minds of the older generation, women still don't have the same freedom to kill themselves slowly as do men. Unfortunately, Korean females are still regarded as second-class. They will, however, in the fullness of time, achieve their payback; so many of their gender have been aborted that their male counterparts might have to win a decreasing number of them by becoming charming, considerate and compassionate. Yes, and that will be the same day that pigs take to the air. |
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andrew
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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andrew, i'd like to see some proof for your point.
i've been harassed many times by korean men for smoking; i usually tell them where they can go when they do it. fortunately i'm taller than most of them when i where my big boots, so i'm a bit intimmidating (sp). i think it's total b.s that men can smoke and women can't.
my last director told me that i wasn't to smoke around the school area as "women don't have as many rights as they do in canada here". i thought was pretty stupid. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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I was under the impression that one of the major reasons why so many men smoke, is that cigs are handed out for free (or very cheaply) in the army. And that many men get addicted during their military service.
Anybody in the know about this? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
I was under the impression that one of the major reasons why so many men smoke, is that cigs are handed out for free (or very cheaply) in the army. And that many men get addicted during their military service.
Anybody in the know about this? |
I have heard that as well, but it also seems to me like a lot of pre-military service aged Korean males smoke as well.
I wonder, Korea being the sort of society it is, whether men who don't smoke become "wang-dda"s in their circles. Perhaps peer pressure is a large factor.
It also may be that many Koreans have an "addictive personality" type, which increases susceptibility to excessive smoking, gambling, drinking, etc. |
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