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[Kwangjuchicken]

Just love the tiltle of this thread.

I thought the OP was going to say he had this thing on his thing and he wanted some medical advice.

But I have know people who got in big trouble because of privates. Most always think about how the gov/immigration feels about this. But, the biggest problems can come from your place of employment. They are the ones that might get most upset if they find out.

They look at it as you are stealing away potential clients.

My advice. If you have a legal full time job in Korea, let that be enough.

Better safe than sorry.

[philinkorea]

[livinginkorea]

I'm curious to find out too!! Please tell us your secret!! I promise that I won't tell your boss!!

[matesol]

I've heard, and it makes a lot of sense to from what I've seen, that immigration has an unwritten rule that they won't deport people who do privates if they work for a university, as this just has repercussions that they don't want to deal with. I know of three people who were caught and deported (but I've been in Korea for six years). Two of them were hagwon teachers, one was freelancing, doing privates and doing part time work at umpteen different hagwans on a tourist visa, going back and forth from Japan every 90 days.

Just be smart about it and I don't think you'll ever get caught.

1) Don't take the elevator, EVER. When you come down to the ground floor, you don't know who will be waiting. Always take the stairs, even if you are going up to the 15th floor. When you get to the third floor, wait in the stairwell until the elevator leaves the ground floor and goes up, before exiting the building. This way, there almost no chance anyone will see you leaving.

2) It much better if you go to your privates by car. Get there 15 minutes early and wait in your car. Park near the door, When you see someone come out of hte building, that means they just came out of the elevator and anyone waiting for the elevator is now in the elevator going up. Enter the building about 30 seconds after that time.

3) Don't make eye contact with anyone. It's amazing, even being a westerner, how inconspicuous you can be, even in Korea, if you just walk in, as cool as a cucumber, but wihtout making eye contact with anyone.

4) I always have a few handy excuse if the police or immigration are ever waiting for me on the way out. a) I just had dinner with a professor, fron the uni where I work. I went to his appartment with him, he pushed elevator button and I went to his place with him and I can't remember which floor it is. They all look the same. or b) I'm thinking about key pricing a place here (I am married so that sounds legit). I want went to the top floor just to listen and see how noisy the traffic is. My wife and I have discussed this. I ever get caught (unlikely) she'll tell immigration the same story.

5) Always carry at least one book in your backpack that is NOT related to English, for exaple a math book, physics book, or something similar. Have a notebook with notes on that subject in your bag as well. Say you are studying math, physics, whatever, in your spare time.


Frankly speaking, I think doing privates is great! People who do privates are motivated to do a good job. Whereelse can you get 50,000 an hour? Get a 9 to 5 university job. Do eight hours a week, 2 hours per evening, Monday to Thursday, no Friday or weekends. That's an extr 1.6 million a month. You only have to do it for two or three years and you have saved some major cash. You'll get tired of doing it after a few years. So just think of it as working hard for a few years, so that you'll be better off later. If you are teaching four or five kids, it isn't very expensive per child, per hour. The parents know your personally and so they have a better idea of what kind of education their kids are getting. By clamping down on people doing privates, Korean immigration is also taking away the power of choice from Korean families.

People always want to know how to get privates easily. It's simple. Most universities and many hagwons have a "housewives" class. Do everthing you can do to get that class where you work. Always be clean cut, energetic and friendly. After teaching them for a few months, give them your e-mail or phone number. All you need is one mother who is a social butterfly and you will have all the privates you'll ever want.

[livinginkorea]

That's a very good read and good advice. I always took the elevator so that would explain how the boss found out before.
But I learnt my lesson and the next private class that came along I took it mainly cas it was out of town and I have been a lot more careful and I haven't got caught since!!!!

[Sage Monkey]

[The Man known as The Man]

[matesol]

Privates are illegal.

HTH[/quote]

You're from New Zealand, right? New Zealand is a rather liberal country, no? Are you going to try to tell me that you have never smoked marijuana? Or did you smoke but not inhale? If you paid money for marijuana, you have no idea what kind of violence or coercion you have financed, since people who produce that stuff usually have to use coercion and violence, at least some times, to keep their "business" inconspicuous. Regardless of whether or not the police actually prosecute people for doing weed, it's illegal! If you have done weed, you are a criminal! Any of us can get on our high horse and self-righteously tell other people what we think they should do. If you haven't done weed, I'm sure you have done something else illegal, since there are so many ridiculous regulations in any western country nowadays. (One of the stupidest ones, you aren't supposed to cruise in your car with it in neutral as your going down a hill. Oh my God, the word will end if you break that law!) It's also technically illegal to be drunk in public in most western countries. Ever been drunk in public?

If you don't want to do privates, don't do them. However, public education is unquestionably failing miserably at giving children a good education, as the home schooling movement in North America is clearly demonstrating by its continued successes. In the last three national spelling bees, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd palce were all taken by homeschoolers. No one who went to public school even qualified. Hiring a private tutor is actually cheaper than sending children to a hagwon if there are four kids from four different families and even if it weren't, no parent who is sincerely interested in the welfare of their children should wait for private tutoring to be "legal" before the give their children the best education that they think they can. Parents have a responsibility to their children and if they think getting them a private tutor is the best choice for them, more power to them, whatever any self-righteous pro big governement person thinks about it.

In any case, doing privates is doesn't involve any violence or coercion, unlike the use of most narcotics or public drunkeness.

[Kwangjuchicken]

[chronicpride]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[TheUrbanMyth]

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[The Man known as The Man]