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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Daechidong Waygook,
I teach at a "good" university. The experience of the foreign professors has never been included in the determination of the salary and benefits.



See that's the difference. I wouldn't consider a university like that "good". Nor would I work for one like that. If I was unhappy, I'd just move on.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth,
Why would a "good" or "well respected" Korean university not pay foreign professors with many years of teaching experience, teaching certificates, and advanced degrees more than foreign professors with one year of teaching experience. For example, one foreign professor with 12 years teaching experience in the U.S. and 1 year teaching experience in Korea receives almost the same pay and benefits as a foreign professor with less than one year of teaching experience in the U.S. and no teaching experience in Korea. The more experienced foreign professor also has a teaching certificate while the less experienced professor does not. The more experienced professor has acheived a higher level of educational degree than the less experienced professor. The one professor with more experience receives 50,000 won more per month.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would a "good" or "well respected" Korean university not pay foreign professors with many years of teaching experience, teaching certificates, and advanced degrees more than foreign professors with one year of teaching experience. For example, one foreign professor with 12 years teaching experience in the U.S. and 1 year teaching experience in Korea receives almost the same pay and benefits as a foreign professor with less than one year of teaching experience in the U.S. and no teaching experience in Korea. The more experienced foreign professor also has a teaching certificate while the less experienced professor does not. The more experienced professor has acheived a higher level of educational degree than the less experienced professor. The one professor with more experience receives 50,000 won more per month.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bachelor's degree holders: 5 years' teaching experience at university level

Master's degree holders: 2 years' experience at university level


I don't know of many bachelors degree holders who have prior university teaching experience except for ones in Korea.
If you're teaching at a western uni, you need at least a master's and only then, you're usually a lowly teaching assistant grading papers that *may* teach a class or two to fill in for the prof on occasion.
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuckistan wrote:
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Bachelor's degree holders: 5 years' teaching experience at university level

Master's degree holders: 2 years' experience at university level


I don't know of many bachelors degree holders who have prior university teaching experience except for ones in Korea.
If you're teaching at a western uni, you need at least a master's and only then, you're usually a lowly teaching assistant grading papers that *may* teach a class or two to fill in for the prof on occasion.


This is not true. You can teach at a University in the USA with just a BA.

My brother teaches law classes at one of the most respected (and expensive) private law schools in the central USA. He only has a BA at the moment, and is finishing law school himself. He's one of the top students at the school, though. They don't let just anyone do it.
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