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Scot-in-Ansan
Joined: 10 Jun 2003
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 Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:26 pm Post subject: job issues |
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I'm going to be leaving my current job in a couple of months, after completeing 6months of my contract. I like my job alot but I'm really unhappy where I am living, so it's not like there have been any problems with school.
My questions is whether I will be given any problems by my school in finding a new job. Are the school obliged to give me a release letter and if they do, do I have to leave the country in order to get a new visa(its in my contract that the visa will be cancelled within 10 days) before I get a new job. Is there any reason that immigration would stop me from taking another job?
So many questions, I know, but I just don't know the in's and out's of its all! Cheers in advance |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:39 am Post subject: Re: job issues |
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| Scot-in-Ansan wrote: |
I'm going to be leaving my current job in a couple of months, after completeing 6months of my contract. I like my job alot but I'm really unhappy where I am living, so it's not like there have been any problems with school.
My questions is whether I will be given any problems by my school in finding a new job. Are the school obliged to give me a release letter and if they do, do I have to leave the country in order to get a new visa(its in my contract that the visa will be cancelled within 10 days) before I get a new job. Is there any reason that immigration would stop me from taking another job?
So many questions, I know, but I just don't know the in's and out's of its all! Cheers in advance |
Hmm- well they aren't obligated to give you a release letter, but if you give them a month or so's notice they should. For that matter, if you tell them why you want to leave, they may offer to move you.
Assuming that you do leave, then you'll have to leave the country at least once possibly twice. Some people just leave the country to end their visa, and come back and do a job hunt while on a tourist visa- it does buy you more time if you need it. If you've already got a job lined up right away, then you'll just have to do a visa run to Japan and your new employer will probably pick up the tab for that.
Immigration will stop you from getting a new E-2 visa if the first one isn't cancelled by the school, which is where the release letter comes in. |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:05 am Post subject: |
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I agree with peppermint....have you TALKED to your employer about a) living conditions, and/or b) leaving? Would you be willing to stay if they move you? If no, will they give you a release letter?
I think that NOW is the time to be talking to your director!! |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:26 am Post subject: Re: job issues |
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| peppermint wrote: |
| if you tell them why you want to leave, they may offer to move you. |
My guess is that he doesn't like Ansan. If that's the case, there's not much the boss can do about that. I can't blame him -- I wouldn't want to live there. |
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Scot-in-Ansan
Joined: 10 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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I no longer live in Ansan, I live even further out now. But while we're on that matter, I lived in Ansan last year and loved it. I hooked up with a really great foreigners community. So, SHE does not have a problem with living in Ansan.
My neighbourhood is really isolated and it takes me about 30-40mins to get to anywhere that I would want to live(ie Ansan) So my questions are not about how I can change my situation with my school, they are about any potential problems that I may encounter whne trying to change my job.
My school could not move me due to the housing contract that they do not want to break. I have spoken to my co teacher but not any of the vice principals or principal.
I don't need advice on how to deal with my current job, just on the situation with immigration, finding a new job etc |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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talk to your principal
Your co-teacher may be the nicest person you have ever met but her primary job is to tell you NO.
Example. When I arrived I had to wait for two weeks before I could move into my apartment...when the previous tenant moved out it was filthy...actuallty filthy doesnt even begin to describe it! Black mold 2-3 feet up the walls, cracked windows, holes in the screens, bags of garbage and god only knows what everywhere, the floor was covered with cigarette burns and had holes everywhere. Talking to my co-teacher....you have to clean it...that is Korean custom. I am not Korean and butted heads with her for a week before I took pictures with my digital camera, showed them to the vice principal and within a week I had new wallpaper, floors, windows, screens and all the garbage had been hauled away.
Go to the people who can make a decision....chances are your vice principal and principal will help you out rather than lose a good teacher. |
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Scot-in-Ansan
Joined: 10 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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My co teacher is really great, there is no issue with this at all. They are very good at sticking to the contract so I'm pretty sure it'llbe fine but I didn't know the situation with immigration.
I've already spoken to my co teacher and she's been great. She understands my feelings and has not tried to dissuade me at all. It would make life hard for her for the next wee while but she also wants the best for me, she doesnt want me to be miserable.
Cheers for the good advice Peppermint |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| They can move you if they want. it will be a hassel for them, but probably not as much as if they have to find a new teacher. |
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Daechidong Waygookin
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Is it the apartment you dint like or the town? If its the apartment, talk to them. If its the neighborhood then suck it up. You are a grown up. Finish your contract like a responsible adult and then leave. |
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Scot-in-Ansan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I am sorry but you do not know me, or my situation. Furthermore, I didn't ask you about whether I should actually leave my job or not.
i asked for advice about immigration and the actual procedures behind changing jobs.
Once again, I will thank Peppermint for the direct advice, with no judgements. Don't ;ecture when you don't know the full situation, which I am not about to divulge to a complete stranger. |
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turtlepi1
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Scot-in-Ansan wrote: |
I am sorry but you do not know me, or my situation. Furthermore, I didn't ask you about whether I should actually leave my job or not.
i asked for advice about immigration and the actual procedures behind changing jobs.
Once again, I will thank Peppermint for the direct advice, with no judgements. Don't ;ecture when you don't know the full situation, which I am not about to divulge to a complete stranger. |
Sure they are being a pain in the ass with the lectures...but everytime one ESL teacher doesn't finish a contract it reflects on the community as a whole. (As much as Hagwon bosses suck they only suck slightly worse than ESL teachers)
I can think of one particular reason why you are moving and I won't speculate but I can also think of a few other legitimate reasons to leave. But if you didn't want the lecture you should have not said up front that you didn't have a problem with the school and made it sound like your area was just a little crappy...a reason that you don't want to talk about is fine...people are entitled to their privacy and still ask for help but don't jump down our throats because you weren't treated with kids gloves when you tried to play it off...
Sorry about this sounding like a lecture...just a little too snappy for my liking. 
And by the way...sorry you are having problems in Korea. I'm glad to hear you are going to give it another shot. I hope the immigration thing works out for you. |
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Daechidong Waygookin
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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| Scot-in-Ansan wrote: |
I am sorry but you do not know me, or my situation. Furthermore, I didn't ask you about whether I should actually leave my job or not.
i asked for advice about immigration and the actual procedures behind changing jobs.
Once again, I will thank Peppermint for the direct advice, with no judgements. Don't ;ecture when you don't know the full situation, which I am not about to divulge to a complete stranger. |
Well SOOOOOOOOOOOOORREEEEEEYYYY. You said you have no problems with your school. If its an apartment issue, get it resolved. If you dont like your town then suck it up. If you have other issues, you didnt say so. Do you have a stalker? is the ajumma downstairs mean to you? You never stated that there are serious issues. So many people break their contracts for the stupidest reasons. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
| Is it the apartment you dint like or the town? If its the apartment, talk to them. If its the neighborhood then suck it up. You are a grown up. Finish your contract like a responsible adult and then leave. |
I just read the OP's posts prior to this comment, I think that you made a big leap of assumption and your wording was uncalled for. If you are going to contribute advice here, please try to minimize the assumption and try to use some tact. This board used to have a heavy dosage of assumption-riddled responses from some posters and would cause unnecessary fights and flames, in which your posting style seems to be following.
You're a man, so no one is realistically expecting you to curb this, but just don't act up when people smartly retort to your smart comment. |
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Daechidong Waygookin
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I made an assumption based on the info I had. It isnt my fault that the OP was fortcoming with all the relevant info. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
| Scot-in-Ansan wrote: |
I am sorry but you do not know me, or my situation. Furthermore, I didn't ask you about whether I should actually leave my job or not.
i asked for advice about immigration and the actual procedures behind changing jobs.
Once again, I will thank Peppermint for the direct advice, with no judgements. Don't ;ecture when you don't know the full situation, which I am not about to divulge to a complete stranger. |
Well SOOOOOOOOOOOOORREEEEEEYYYY. You said you have no problems with your school. If its an apartment issue, get it resolved. If you dont like your town then suck it up. If you have other issues, you didnt say so. Do you have a stalker? is the ajumma downstairs mean to you? You never stated that there are serious issues. So many people break their contracts for the stupidest reasons. |
Where you're living is equally as important as the job. You have to spend a year of your life potentially in the same neighborhood, so it better have some sort of attraction to it, or you're simply asking to drive yourself bonkers. I think you've got the original poster confused with those other people who do midnight runs; the guy is simply trying to do some research on the best way to go about changing jobs amicably and legally.
There was another guy on here by the name of ryleeys who had this same feeling of contractual obligation as you mentioned. In his case, however, he was placed in a ridiculous situation and everyone told him that he should leave. He passed up better job offers as well due to this contractual obligation. Considering how important the contract can potentially be to a school (re: not very), this heroic diatribe seems ill-placed. |
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