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Quick Reference Grammar Book

 
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:32 pm    Post subject: Quick Reference Grammar Book Reply with quote

This past week I have allowed my highschool students to study for their final exam. During this time a few of them have asked me questions pertaining to their exam which are to English grammar. For the most part the questions haven't been that difficult to answer. But, I have come to realize that I need to brush up my grammar skills a little.

Does anyone know the name of a small quick reference grammar book that I can purchase at Kyobo bookstore?

Thanks in advance.
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gypsyfish



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not small, but good.

Martin Parrot's book. It's at school (I'm, not) but the title is something like Grammar For Teachers.
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The COLLINS GEM little grammar book was a handy thing to keep in one's breast pocket....
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Swan Practical English Usage by Oxford.

I really like this reference book.

It was a required text for CELTA.
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HamuHamu



Joined: 01 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsyfish wrote:
Not small, but good.

Martin Parrot's book. It's at school (I'm, not) but the title is something like Grammar For Teachers.


It's called "Grammar for English Language Teachers" and it's a FANTASTIC book, although very thick and quite heavy due to how comprehensive it is. It was the required text for my CELTA course.

It's a super book, and I was broken hearted to leave it behind in the last place I lived when it wouldn't fit in my suitcase. In Europe it was only 14 Euros, but I suspect quite a bit more at Kyobo or B&Ls.

Although it is for teachers (it has sections on what students will find most difficult in learning and understanding that particular grammar point so you can be prepared and troubleshoot, preparing your lesson with that in mind), it also has activities and exercises for the students as well.
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO wrote:
Michael Swan Practical English Usage by Oxford.

I really like this reference book.

It was a required text for CELTA.

That's the CELTA bible isn't it. It was regarded that way during my course. "What did Swan have to say?"

Where did you do your course, Hamu?
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HamuHamu



Joined: 01 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my CELTA with International House.

Parrot was our main reference book, but Swan was the 2nd in-line.

I think they just preferred Parrott's book because, as I said, it has the "Areas of Difficulty" for each grammar point, and thus was a good help for us in planning our lessons. That said, it was a bit of a Catch-22, because anytime we stated what our "expected difficulties" were for the lesson, they always caught someone with the "You just took that from Parrott, you didn't think of anything YOURSELF.." Mad

I also have Swan's book, but I don't find it as clear and easy to sort through.
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might have to check that out. I found Swan a little ambiguous in areas as well but generally good.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't had any problems with Swan's book - really helpful.

There is also a "student's" Edition of this book.

I don't know the other one you're talking about - I'll have to check it out. But so far, Swan's book is what I've been using. I have had to learn how to use the book though. A little confusing at first.

I used Swan during my CELTA to prepare to high light grammar and I had no problems.

I keep it in my office at work and still use it as a reference.
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thorin



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of wish the Swan index gave the page number instead of the topic number, but once you get used to it, it's a highly useful reference.
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gypsyfish



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swann is okay, but I stand by Parrott for the above listed reasons.
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noelinkorea



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: Shinchon, Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 3:51 am    Post subject: my suggestion Reply with quote

I had a similar problem to the OP, and I went to Kyobo bookstore and found a great book. It's called "An A - Z of English Grammar and Usage: New Edition" by Leech, G. et al . The book is more than 600 pages and cost just 16 000 won...cheap as! The best thing about the book is that it covers everything, and it's all in the clear-cut descriptions and basic English - this kept it simple for me and my students. I have found that it explains everything well enough for my students' understanding. It enumerates all of the essential grammar points and exceptions.

Here is an Amazon link (for some reason it is rather expensive on the website, but again on 16 000 won at Kyobo):

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0582405742/qid=1103975552/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-3749685-7880950?v=glance&s=books
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