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Nowhere Man
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| Well the fact is that the majority of 9-11 conspiracy theorists are also holocaust deniers. That tells us all what we need to know about them. |
Subjective parading as objective.
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W.T.Carl
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| Perhaps was I a tad harsh. However, the DU Sabot round is the most effective antitank round ever. Without it, it would be much more difficult to knock out enemy tanks. War is for keeps. It is not a game. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Well the fact is that the majority of 9-11 conspiracy theorists are also holocaust deniers. That tells us all what we need to know about them. |
Subjective parading as objective.
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Nowhereman doesn't mind that Neo Nazis joined the anti war movement.\
Nowhereman is as objective as this . The US is always wrong, blame the US (and listen to Zappa)
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| Perhaps was I a tad harsh. However, the DU Sabot round is the most effective antitank round ever. Without it, it would be much more difficult to knock out enemy tanks. War is for keeps. It is not a game. |
War at any cost? And an optional war at that. I could understand it better if America was fighting tooth and nail for her survival - but this was a war of economics.
Birth defects are for keeps, so is a contaminated environment and so is death. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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It is interesting that you question the US government (which you should) but you demand that we don't question the anti war/ anti US activists / protestors and agitators
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Er....I don't remember making any such demand. Stick to facts, not conjecture and daydreaming. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: ... |
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Nowhereman doesn't mind that Neo Nazis joined the anti war movement.\
Nowhereman is as objective as this . The US is always wrong, blame the US (and listen to Zappa)
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Subjectivity parading as objectivity.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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Nowhereman doesn't mind that Neo Nazis joined the anti war movement.\
Nowhereman is as objective as this . The US is always wrong, blame the US (and listen to Zappa)
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Subjectivity parading as objectivity.
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More objective than you .
More mainstream than you.
Blame the US for everythiing and give moral support to every enemy of the US while you call for the US to back off.
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flint
Joined: 11 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:59 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Nowhere Man wrote: |
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Nowhereman doesn't mind that Neo Nazis joined the anti war movement.\
Nowhereman is as objective as this . The US is always wrong, blame the US (and listen to Zappa)
VILE |
Subjectivity parading as objectivity.
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More objective than you .
More mainstream than you.
Blame the US for everythiing and give moral support to every enemy of the US while you call for the US to back off.
Vile. |
Interesting that you ignored Big Bird's reply to your accusation but attacked Nowheremans. |
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Hank Scorpio
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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War at any cost? And an optional war at that. I could understand it better if America was fighting tooth and nail for her survival - but this was a war of economics. |
You betcha, war at any cost. You fight wars to win, just like any other fight. There are no fair fights, you want to win, end of story. Does depleted uranium have some environmental downsides? Yep, and so does lead and every other heavy metal out there. Do the benefits of using it likely outweigh the downsides? In my opinion, yes.
In the grand scheme of things I'd rather live in a house made out of DU, and eat off of plates with all my utensils made out of DU than be anywhere near a raging oil well fire, or one of the biochem factories Hussein had going before the first gulf war. Pollution is a fact of any human endeavor. Anytime a human produces anything they're likely producing pollution as well; war doubly so. Were I a soldier or a civilian in Iraq my concern wouldn't be so much DU as it would be a roadside bomb. On the list of concerns explosive death tends to trump possible gradual heavy metal poisoning. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:41 am Post subject: Re: ... |
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| flint wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Nowhere Man wrote: |
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Nowhereman doesn't mind that Neo Nazis joined the anti war movement.\
Nowhereman is as objective as this . The US is always wrong, blame the US (and listen to Zappa)
VILE |
Subjectivity parading as objectivity.
VILE |
More objective than you .
More mainstream than you.
Blame the US for everythiing and give moral support to every enemy of the US while you call for the US to back off.
Vile. |
Interesting that you ignored Big Bird's reply to your accusation but attacked Nowheremans. |
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| n't you know that The Guardian is completely run by holocaust deniers and 911 conspiracists in cahoots with that wicked little mutt of George Bush and funded by Fidel Castro himself ? |
I think this reply by bigbird warrented my answer.
He seems to be saying that everyone who questions a source that is critical of the US you are someone who just doesn't want people to question the US.
anyway flint you seem afraid , well that isn't such a bad thing. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Special Video Report:
Family Blames Veteran's Death on Depleted Uranium Illness
The family of a metro soldier fears he died from a war-related illness. They shared their story exclusively with NBC Action News.
35-year-old Army Sergeant Clay Garton spent 16-months in Iraq. His family says ammunition used by soldiers poisoned him. They claim he was exposed to depleted uranium dust during a rescue mission in Fallujah in May.
The government contends the health risks are low.
Clay��s dad Duane Garton says, "Thirty-five years I had the boy. He went through 16 months of hell, he come back, and they didn't do nothing for him. That's what I don't understand, why they couldn't do something for him. They just let him lay there and keep going down and down."
A memorial fund has been set up to benefit Clay Garton's three children. To donate, call the Raytown branch of the Bank of America at (816) 979-6292.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/video_family_blames_depleted_uranium.htm |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| You would think that the one thing pro- and anti-war Americans would agree on is that their war vets deserve to be treated with the best medical coverage and treatment they could afford. But no, apparently once they step out of uniform 'supporting the troops' means making them scrape and beg and deneying that war screws up people in innumerable ways. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Talking of uranium-
Mugabe reveals uranium power plan
Zimbabwe has close ties with Iran and North Korea, two states in the spotlight for their nuclear policies.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4455324.stm
Zim's "expertise" at using it for energy prodution would be laughable, but I have no doubt they would sell it to the two rogue states. (knockdown price). |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Mugabe reveals uranium power plan |
yes....sure.... of course.... who would be surprised by this?
close ties to NK and Iran? whose surprised by that.
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| You betcha, war at any cost. You fight wars to win, just like any other fight. There are no fair fights, you want to win, end of story. Does depleted uranium have some environmental downsides? Yep, and so does lead and every other heavy metal out there. Do the benefits of using it likely outweigh the downsides? In my opinion, yes. |
BB's saying war at any cost for self preservation is most understandible but don't argue that this war has anything to do with self preservation. |
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