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Sonja · Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: korea

crazygirl wrote:

As for the hoju system, again I don't have much time for anything that gives special rights to a group.

Korean men spend 2.5 years in the army for basically no money. Korean women don't; it's a special right. Men don't have that special right. Why aren't the Korean women who are fighting the hoju system also demonstrating against the obvious inequality of the army system?

Daechidong Waygookin · Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:35 pm Post subject:

phaedrus · Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: I'm comin' to get ya.

Daechidong Waygookin · Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject:

Sonja · Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: korea

What is making you so angry, wussyboy?

Are men oppressed for being forced to go to the army?

Why isn't your wifey token marching for equality in the army? Ask her.

Does she think that her grandfather was an oppressor? Ask her grandmother what she thinks, you stupid cunt, that'll teach you a few things, like how to be a man, not a metrosexual afraid of duty and responsibility.

Daechidong Waygookin · Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:51 pm Post subject:

On the other hand · Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue

Sonja wrote:

On the other hand · Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue

And to everyone harping on about prostitution:

The old profession is certainly more popular in Korea than it is in most English speaking countries. However, I think it's safe to say that pornography is at LEAST as popular in the west than it is in Korea(likely more popular, if you consider that non-internet porn is far less plentiful in Korea). Do you think that western men who purchase pornogrpahy(which after all invloves paying women to engage in sex acts) deserve the same ridicule that you people are heaping on Korean men who visit hookers? Because I know a fairly wide variety of people back home, and I'd be hard pressed to name someone in my general age group who hasn't purchased and/or consumed pornography at one time or another.

Daechidong Waygookin · Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject:

Im not harping on prostitution per se, just on this one person, whose only option (isnt it OBVIOUS, and painfully so) is prostitution. Men who have normal relations with women dont behave like this. Its en extreme misogyny that is only brough about by scarring experiences with women. I guess either a woman or many women rejected him or he was humiliated by women.

Either that or he is trolling.

Sonja · Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: korea

1. What physical or intellectual differences exist between men and women that would prevent a woman from assuming head of the household?

2. If it's simply a case of tit-for-tat, ie. men do army service so they get to to run the family, then do you favour preventing disabled men from ascending to head of the household? Suppose a disabled man is married to a woman who served as a volunteer soldier? Should she become the head of the household instead of him?

I've tried to phrase my questions in as respectful a manner as possible, so I'm hoping to hear your response. Thanks.

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No problem, I will reply to any gentleman expressing himself in a polite way.

First I don't hate women. It's people like the clowns/feminists on this board who hate women because they pretend to serve women when they're in fact just destroying feminity.

It's not a matter of whether a woman can be the head of a household. The question is: would Korean society as a whole benefit from it? The answer, from my perspective (and for millions of Koreans) is maybe, but probably not. I refer you to the newspaper articles for the morality of a patriarchal system. There is nothing oppressive about the hoju, or only to modern marxists. And yes, it's also about rights/duties: men have specific duties that women can't take on, like going to the army. Korean men spend nearly 3 years in the army while most women can basically graduate and gain job experience. It's UNFAIR. I'm not Korean, so I don't care, but Korean men deserve to have other benefits not shared by women. The hoju works in their favor to some extent only since it requires them to take care of their woman for life, whereas these days in the US for example single mothers can dump their man or divorce them without any reason and keep the money and the kids thanks to the all-encompassing STATE.

Daechidong Waygookin · Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:35 pm Post subject:

Ahhh, for someone who loves women so much you would be quick to take their right to vote away.

What the hoju does is this. It keeps a woman locked up in a sense. The husband can beat her, cheat on her, never come home, and she has no way to fight back. He will divorce her and she will have no legal rights to her kids.

All these millions of Koreans you refer to. Well, millions of Koreans hate the hoju for the oppressive system it is. See, I have MY millions too.

You dont hate women? Smile

Heheheh what a joke. Was that supposed to be funny? They sure are greedy arent they, demanding their rights.

Men go to the army and women gain employment experience? Who are you kidding? Women never get hired for anything except low paying arbeit jobs and low position jobs. The career path is reserved for the man. At least in the West you have healthy competition. Here, well women arent even allowed to step up to the plate, much less compete.

What is "destroying" femininity? Is a real woman a meek slave who waits obediently for her husband to come home drunk at 2 am from the ��? If so, lets destroy that system right away.

Heres what my father in law said. he said he was happy his daughter would marry a foreigner who would treat her with respect. He wanted me to promise I would never become a typical korean ajossi.

Sonja · Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: korea

for someone who loves women so much you would be quick to take their right to vote away

Were the Greeks women-haters too?

On the other hand · Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue

Daechidong Waygookin · Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:38 pm Post subject:

Sonja · Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: korea

Other questions follow. ��What is it discriminatory to call a woman ��ajumma�� (the Korean word for 'aunt')?�� "Men have to spend all day at the office, and then when they come home, must they also play with the kids, too?" ��Don��t women have enough already? They are the ones who control the money, and we men are the ones always being scolded.��

Hmmm, who's being exploited?