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Degree-checking soon to become reality for teachers
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be ashamed if my outlaws/inlaws contributed money toward an apartment. It has been offered and I have declined. But that's just me. A man needs to make it on his own to prove himself in my opinion...or do without.
32 grand is peanuts? Yeah right!
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Daechidong Waygookin



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:
I'd be ashamed if my outlaws/inlaws contributed money toward an apartment. It has been offered and I have declined. But that's just me. A man needs to make it on his own to prove himself in my opinion...or do without.
32 grand is peanuts? Yeah right!


The apartment comes with the job. In laws didnt contribute any money towards it.
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John Henry



Joined: 24 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drove a forklift. It sucks. Working in garagntuan warehouses with no heat/cooling all damn day... breathing in asbestos from the brake parts or whatever you're moving around... And god help you if you turn a load...

Oh yeah, and they make (made) about 24K usd.
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John Henry



Joined: 24 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get it, why do they have to check your transcripts AND verify your degree. Doesn't one imply the other?
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overall, there's not much 'checking' going on anywhere. Save from some schools and universities that do it internally. The need for transcripts is hit/miss, too. Some schools want to see them. Immigration doesn't care about seeing them, unless there are some red flags about the appearance of your degree (ie., missing university seal). The degree at Immigration is sized up cosmetically, not academicly.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chronicpride wrote:
Overall, there's not much 'checking' going on anywhere. Save from some schools and universities that do it internally. The need for transcripts is hit/miss, too. Some schools want to see them. Immigration doesn't care about seeing them, unless there are some red flags about the appearance of your degree (ie., missing university seal). The degree at Immigration is sized up cosmetically, not academicly.


I'd agree.

The big 3 don't check really at all, it seems.

I can only guess that there is a lot of fraud going on.

Korea, Japan and Taiwan could adopt a system of verifying academic degrees if they wanted to.

However, the motivation to do so just isn't there, it seems.

Unless you work at a university in Taiwan, I am extremely confident that if I did not have a degree or TEFL certificate that I could obtain fake documents and use them to obtain a work permit and ARC.

In fact, I know people who have done it.

The EFL scene is like the "Wild West" in Asia.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO wrote:


The EFL scene is like the "Wild West" in Asia.


True. I just came back from Mokdong Immigration this morning, after last night, when myself and my company's immigration consultant were sweating buckets, as we prepared to apply for a D8 visa, for working for a foreign company in Korea. She gave it a 50-50 shot of getting this visa, as there were some clauses and technicalities that we couldn't omit. Such as being hired in Korea for the job, whereas the clause requires you to be hired in the country that company is based out of. Plus, my past year has been on a tourist visa(despite my passport showing that there has been some bank wire activity during that time Wink ), and I have not been to Canada or the US, for over a year and a half, and prior to that was E2s. We were bracing for a lot of questions, and booked off my whole morning to do this. But, we walked in, took a number, waited 5 minutes, went up to the desk, did some small talk chit-chat about the company, and then stamp-stamp. They didn't even need to see my contract, resume and degree(which is not technically required for the D8, but I brought it anyway, because I always try to be in full battle gear, whenever I go there.)

My experiences with going into Daegu Immigration has always been the same. A build-up of tension that comes with the expected dealing of red-tape, and then the ensuing anti-climax of remembering which country I'm in.
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