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What's your favorite Korean "concept"
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What is your favorite Korean "concept"
Han
12%
 12%  [ 4 ]
Jeong
18%
 18%  [ 6 ]
Skinship
33%
 33%  [ 11 ]
Face
6%
 6%  [ 2 ]
Nunchi
30%
 30%  [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 33

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helly



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: WORLDWIDE

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 3:43 pm    Post subject: What's your favorite Korean "concept" Reply with quote

Has anyone ever tried to explain to you the concept of "Han" and then followed up with, "Well, you're not Korean so you wouldn't understand."?

Has anyone ever said, "that is just Korean culture?"

Ring in and tell us what's your favorite essentially Korean concept. I personally favorite "skinship" (and not in a leery way). I find it so sweet that people actually feel they can develop a stronger emotional tie through "skinship."
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Dan



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Sunny Glendale, CA

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you left out my favorite:

bun we gi

meaning atmosphere, or ambiance.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Face (as in saving face, or avoiding embarrassment) and jeong (affection based on being part of the same community), what do the others mean?
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think "jeong" is difficult to explain to a foreigner in Korea, just go try explaining "camp" or "kitsch" to a Korean.

Trust me, you'll get a lot of screwy looks Shocked

Sparkles*_* (likes Celebrity Boxing not because it's altogether interesting, but because the unintentional comedy is through the roof. Same goes for Bbong Jak music.)
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your favorite Korean "concept" Reply with quote

helly wrote:
Has anyone ever tried to explain to you the concept of "Han" and then followed up with, "Well, you're not Korean so you wouldn't understand."?


This is my bane here in Korea. Korean use this excuse all the time, and it is a total cop out. What it does is it cuts you out of any discusion and makes what you say irrelevant. These "concepts" aren't some exculsive discourse, and foreigners prevented from adding to and contributing to these "concepts," cut out of the discourse, by other Koreans or anybody is plain wrong.

If I could add my favorite, I would say it is bunwigi or the concept of atmosphere or the mood of a place and situation.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And...

(Please don't take this as a troll)

I do get a bit annoyed when people try (not that that has been done here) to praise concepts like "jeong" and "hyo", and hint that English is somehow inferior because we don't have similar one word definitions for these concepts.

For the record, there's a plethora (I would estimate in the thousands, actually) of English words that are very long winded when translated into Korean. And even with a long winded definition, most students still can't comprehend the meaning.

Then again, I really like the concept of nun-bit, or 'eye sparkle'. Did you notice how hot Goh So Young is? She's got great eye sparkle.

Sparkles*_*
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: What's your favorite Korean "concept" Reply with quote

weatherman wrote:


If I could add my favorite, I would say it is bunwigi or the concept of atmosphere or the mood of a place and situation.


Easily summed up in the English word vibe.

Sparkles*_* (bunwigin' out)
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeong - having to hang out with people you don't like

han - feeling sorry for oneself because one is korean
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helly



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: WORLDWIDE

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, pretty good response so far, cool!

Sorry for leaving a couple off. I tried to add an "other, please specify" but didn't come through. Obviously, I can't include all so I used those the popped to mind first.

Hyo and Bunwigi: Never heard of them before; now I have. Can someone explain Hyo?

Nun-bit: Never thought of it as a concept but I guess it could work. Have to say that many Korean women have nun-bit, love it!!

I guess one of the reasons for this poll was to find out some other concepts unknown to me. Got two so far.....keep 'em coming!
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really a concept, but I like the term and I hope my romanization is close, but the term na-la-li is a good one. It is used to refer to somebody who likes to play and goofs off by ignoring work and other duties. It can also refer to the way somebody dresses, men or women, which would be geared to attracting the opposite sex. It is a good term, I like na-la-li people, often find them pretty real and honest about life. The image is just that, and image that works for them.
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Cthulhu



Joined: 02 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey what about "Gi-bon" (good mood or atmosphere). Without it, the mood at the party is flat, and people aren't having fun.

In practical terms it means: pay W30,000* won up front for a couple of warm beers and some fruit or you aint getting into this nightclub.

*Busan rate. May vary according to location
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katydid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought (well not always, as I only recently bought a book of Korean idioms) that han meant injustice, or something needed to be taken care of, or a feeling of loss or sorrow due to unrequited love. The book talked of this one saying "A woman harboring 'han' can make it frost in May"... and they also said that when people eat something they have been craving, or when they take revenge on someone who has wronged them, they say "I have resolved my han."
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bural chingu. Testicle friends. Friends since you were babies.
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sid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Berkshire, England

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cthulhu wrote:
Hey what about "Gi-bon" (good mood or atmosphere). Without it, the mood at the party is flat, and people aren't having fun.

In practical terms it means: pay W30,000* won up front for a couple of warm beers and some fruit or you aint getting into this nightclub.

*Busan rate. May vary according to location


I think you are confusing two words there, kibon means 'basic' or something, usually referring to the standard price you pay for something. Kibun (ooh sound) is feeling, 'vibe', whatever.

Some of the 'emotional state' concepts in Korean are really funny, I like Jja-jung-na, and bbi-joss-o as well. The words seem to fit the feeling so well.
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Cthulhu



Joined: 02 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I think you are confusing two words there, kibon means 'basic' or something, usually referring to the standard price you pay for something. Kibun (ooh sound) is feeling, 'vibe', whatever.


Ah, then I stand corrected. I was under the impression that it was the same word used for a variation on the same concept.
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