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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject: Masters in TESL. Does it open doors? |
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How worthwhile is it? Is pay higher (guessing only a few hundred thousand per month, right)?
Have you found it opens doors for you in Korea or elsewhere?
I am currently talking with some top central USA schools about taking some courses online with them next year (maybe 6 credits) then returning home to finish with them full-time (33 credits total).
My undergrad is in Journalism/Mass Communications, and I am not certified. I don't plan to become certified to teach in the USA -- at least not at first.
Constructive comments appreciated. Thanks. |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:48 am Post subject: |
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For a few years now, I have seen many applicants' resumes being faxed to the university I am at applying for the various positions. 99% of the few hundred or so I have seen have been MA's in TESL, etc., MA's in education...and yet...the powers to be who select the chosen few have NEVER selected anyone with a MA's TESL except for the first time a few months ago. Good? Bad? Who knows the way koreans think. |
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Rather_Dashing
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:17 am Post subject: |
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Outside of Asia, a master's degree in TESL is REQUIRED unless you want to slave away at $15 USD/hour
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Germany, Netherlands, etc... to get the good jobs there, you need the master's degree. |
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ohfamous

Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Location: Off the beaten path
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Actually, the industry average in Korea is close to $15 USD/hr. Considering a standard 2mil/120hr hagwon contract, you get:
2,000,000 won / 120 hrs = 16,666.67 won/hr.
At the current exchange rate, that's about $16.04 USD/hr. And that's only because of the good rates these days. Back in August when it was 1080 won to the dollar, you were making $15.43/hr.
I guess most of us in Korea are slaves.  |
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TECO

Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:32 am Post subject: |
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It definitely helps, Derrek.
Your TEFL'ing career will take off after doing an M.A. in Applied Linguistics are TESOL.
I did mine in Australia and met professors from Chinese, Korea, Japanese and Taiwanese universities who are still good contacts if I decide to go to any of these countries to look for university teaching positions.
The two Chinese professors that were in my class have both told me that they would help me get a position in their schools if I was interested.
So, aside from what you'll learn in an M.A. program, there are contacts that you'll make which could further your career.
You can't make these contacts if you do your M.A. through distance, either. |
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Rather_Dashing
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:23 am Post subject: |
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ohfamous wrote: |
Actually, the industry average in Korea is close to $15 USD/hr. Considering a standard 2mil/120hr hagwon contract, you get:
2,000,000 won / 120 hrs = 16,666.67 won/hr.
At the current exchange rate, that's about $16.04 USD/hr. And that's only because of the good rates these days. Back in August when it was 1080 won to the dollar, you were making $15.43/hr.
I guess most of us in Korea are slaves.  |
Yeah, but say you taught in Europe where the cost of living is astronomically higher (Paris or London, anyone?) and you will save exactly 0% of what you earn. |
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gochubandit

Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Location: under your bed... with a marker
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:21 am Post subject: |
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hey, outta curiosity, how's the whole MA TESOL process anyways?
is it like the CELTA thing, where u go to some place for 6 weeks and get certification? or is it like an actual masters, taking about 2 years and a serious amount of cash?
and for those of u who got one, how much and how long did it take? |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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kigga34 wrote: |
hey, outta curiosity, how's the whole MA TESOL process anyways?
is it like the CELTA thing, where u go to some place for 6 weeks and get certification? or is it like an actual masters, taking about 2 years and a serious amount of cash?
and for those of u who got one, how much and how long did it take? |
I imagine that it's different at different schools, but what I've found so far is that it will take about 32 to 33 credits, costing about $300 US per credit-hour from Iowa State University. About $1,000 per 3 credit course from University of Northern Iowa. It takes about 2 years. I am planning to do about 6 to 9 credits online (that's the max ISU will allow). I'm trying to get UNI to accept those online credits from ISU, but it doesn't look too promising. I'd like to qualify for an assistanship (sp?) so I can have my school paid for while I work for the University. They don't offer many of those, however. We'll see.
It's not cheap, and it's the real deal. CELTA is as reputable as you can get for a certificate, but you're not nearly as involved in courses or time as getting your Masters. |
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R. S. Refugee

Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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They have a TESL Certificate program and a Master's in TESOL at Seattle University. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for other suggestions -- I'm searching for a program that I can finish near my home, so I can live in the parents' basement for a year -- saving rent and relocation fees. |
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shevek
Joined: 29 Jul 2003
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Rather_Dashing wrote: |
Outside of Asia, a master's degree in TESL is REQUIRED unless you want to slave away at $15 USD/hour
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Germany, Netherlands, etc... to get the good jobs there, you need the master's degree. |
I'm working in Spain right now, and I've heard the same thing from colleagues here. Someone from London said you automatically made 5 quid more per hour for having one, but that seems excessive. But I know how much more I know after just finishing my cool one month course, so I suspect a Master's would be highly informative and useful for a career teacher (outside of certain places). |
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guangho

Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Location: a spot full of deception, stupidity, and public micturation and thus unfit for longterm residency
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:19 am Post subject: M.A. Tesol vs. M.A. App Ling |
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I wonder which one to shoot for....seems to me that the App Ling program is a bit broader and so the opportunities that come by are also broader than an M.A. in TESOL....am I right on this? |
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