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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Koreans Top Spenders in Education Reply with quote


Koreans Top Spenders in Education
South Korea topped the list of household educational spending to total consumption expenditure among the 30 OECD countries, with a ratio of 5.8 percent in 2003. According to the 2004 National Accounts of OECD Countries, Korean households were quite active compared to major advanced nations in their spending on child education. Households in the United States posted 2.5 percent, followed by Japanese with 2.2 percent, Spanish with 1.7 percent, British with 1.3 percent, Germans with 0.7 percent, French with 0.6 percent and Mexicans with 0.4 percent.
by Kim Yon-se
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200501/kt2005011418130411880.htm

This helps explain why educators are paid so little in Korea, right? What is the salary of educators in the United States? Why aren't you receiving as much as (or twice as much as) U.S. educators?
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Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, they have all those PhD candidates in America, so it must be doing some good. Very Happy

As far as foreign educators go, they seem to be paid a decent wage commensurate with their education level, and people on Dave's seem to be doing alright.

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=31876&sid=8e18dc2a4ff75ccbb7610477b10e2eb7
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, I am underpaid. If my employer actually considered my experience and education, then I would receive a significantly higher salary.

Of course, you know that Korean teachers (with a bachelor's degree) earn at least twice the GDP per capita.

In Germany, Ireland, South Korea, and Switzerland, among others, teachers earn at least twice the GDP per capita.
http://www.veaweteach.org/articles_archives_detail.asp?ContentID=324

Korean teachers reach $39,921 after 15 years and $66,269 at the top of their scale.
http://www.austcolled.com.au/pubs.php?id=538
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Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Korean teachers seem to end up making far more than teachers in Australia (never new it topped out at around $36,000 Shocked) but similar to North America and, Europe. America doesn't have low salaries as much as the strong GDP pushes the average up so far. As far as making money goes, I'd take being a teacher in Korea over being a teacher in most other countries.

I'll trust you as far as your own case goes--if you are underpaid then it's time to find a place that appreciates your talent! Smile
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jaykimf



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Koreans Top Spenders in Education Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:

Koreans Top Spenders in Education
South Korea topped the list of household educational spending to total consumption expenditure among the 30 OECD countries, with a ratio of 5.8 percent in 2003. According to the 2004 National Accounts of OECD Countries, Korean households were quite active compared to major advanced nations in their spending on child education. Households in the United States posted 2.5 percent, followed by Japanese with 2.2 percent, Spanish with 1.7 percent, British with 1.3 percent, Germans with 0.7 percent, French with 0.6 percent and Mexicans with 0.4 percent.
by Kim Yon-se
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200501/kt2005011418130411880.htm

This helps explain why educators are paid so little in Korea, right? What is the salary of educators in the United States? Why aren't you receiving as much as (or twice as much as) U.S. educators?


While Korea spends a higher percentage of its expenditures on education, it has a much lower income and expenditure level. The U.S. actually spends more than twice as much per student. Korean teachers actually make more than U.S. teachers on a PPP basis. http://www1.oecd.org/publications/e-book/0104071E.PDF P.66-67
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jaykimf



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Unfortunately, I am underpaid. If my employer actually considered my experience and education, then I would receive a significantly higher salary.

Of course, you know that Korean teachers (with a bachelor's degree) earn at least twice the GDP per capita.

In Germany, Ireland, South Korea, and Switzerland, among others, teachers earn at least twice the GDP per capita.
http://www.veaweteach.org/articles_archives_detail.asp?ContentID=324

Korean teachers reach $39,921 after 15 years and $66,269 at the top of their scale.
http://www.austcolled.com.au/pubs.php?id=538


Wow, in your previous post you claimed that "educators are paid so little in Korea". Now you give statistics about how highly paid they are. Anyway, I'm sure your employer did consider your experience and education in deciding whether to hire you. The fact is that they had a specific job opening. If you decided to apply for and accept a position for which you believe you are overqualified, that would would have been entirely your decision. Furthermore, if your employer actually considered all the nonsense you post here, my guess is that you would be out of a job. You're lucky you haven't been found out.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaykimf wrote,
"Furthermore, if your employer actually considered all the nonsense you post here, my guess is that you would be out of a job. You're lucky you haven't been found out."

Dave, moderaters and other members,
Does this statement from jaykimf qualify as a threat?

jaykimf,
Korean teachers are highly paid. Foreign teachers are not. A foreign teacher usually do not receive as high a salary as a Korean teacher. Foreign teachers are not encouraged to stay in one place for several years.


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indiercj



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why RR is so underpaied?

Let's see.

RR's experience and qualification = +100

RR's attitude = -200

RR's underpaid.

Wink

It's just a joke.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indiercj,

The attitude developed after the underpay. The attitude also developed after having negative experiences just trying to get money required by the Korean labor laws. I have had to fight through the Korean labor board to receive payment.

Besides, I am Mr. Sunshine at work. I show respect to my immediate employer. I try to provide a good education experience for strudents in my classes.
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indiercj



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
indiercj,

The attitude developed after the underpay. The attitude also developed after having negative experiences just trying to get money required by the Korean labor laws. I have had to fight through the Korean labor board to receive payment.

Besides, I am Mr. Sunshine at work. I show respect to my immediate employer. I try to provide a good education experience for strudents in my classes.


Yeah I hear you. I don't know how much you respect your Korean co-worker at your school nor how much you truely like this country. I am not working there. I can only judge you by your posts.

From my work experience, no matter how qualified you are, overly negative attitude always cost the persons job or the (under)pay for that matter. I suggest you think about that REALITY.

Keep up whatever you are doing.
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