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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| 9/10. I have to stay here. It's like a curse, a very soft curse. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:47 am Post subject: |
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I have one or two serious issues with Korea and Koreans but overall it's the best place for me right now.
7/10. |
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shawner88

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| 10/10 ....5 years later and I still dont miss home. |
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Blind Willie
Joined: 05 May 2004
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:25 am Post subject: |
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I give it a 7.5 /10.
I give the third world nation I come from a 2/10. |
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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| 9/10 9 out of 10 days. 1/10 one of every ten days. |
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The Man known as The Man

Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| Blind Willie wrote: |
I give it a 7.5 /10.
I give the third world nation I come from a 2/10. |
That's far too generous. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Hey, I sure don't love Korea. Have a bumpersticker that says 'I love Korea'. That'd be just crazy. To love something or someone, really, it helps to be loved back. And the way things are re; 'foreigners' in Korea it would be kind of kooky, desperate, naive, and yes, goofy to be going 'I love Korea', look at me everybody, I love Korea'.
Yeah, but Korea doesn't really love you. Not really. It'll use you, and if you watch your step/manners one will be tolerated, rather grudgingly. Korea will get a laugh out of you, something different. One's foreign ways are amusing to Koreans. I dunno about you, but I wouldn't be loving that kind of thing.
Nor being deliberately miserable about it. No way. Korea's 'one's mother' when one's here. The water, food, people, the boss, the co-workers. It's all supportive. One's temporary homeland, so you love it. It's under, around you, supportive.
But Koreans aren't that supportive, when it comes down to nitty gritty, of each other/other Koreans, and the foreigner is a weird kind of anomally in a box with a role. It's pretty cool to have the chance to be in a foreign land like Korea, make money, and laugh it up with the students, have fun.
But on the whole it's not reciprocal like a true 'love affair'. How many ajoshis/ajumas/grandparents want a foreign husband for their daughter. Not many I don't think.
Seems it's necessary to weasel around that one. And it's a big bummer, that, IMO. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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First year: 12/10 .... unbelievably amazing to me
Second year: 9/10 ... a great place with some trade offs
Beginning of third year: I thought 8/10 until I went on a trip to New Zealand in January. Now I'm of the mind that Korea is still 9/10 as long as I can make yearly trips abroad for variety's sake, shopping, visiting, etcetera.
But for the first time since 2002 I can imagine myself living outside of Korea without a sense of loss; I could just as well live there for ten years too with yearly getaways. I am truly ambivalent. |
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funplanet

Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Location: The new Bucheon!
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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other than being dirty, noisy, crowded, and dysfunctional...I'd give it an 8/10...
the place grows on you like a fungus |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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I generally like the place... but the quality of most of the buildings (especially the washrooms) really gets me.
Everything (generally) seems to be built as cheaply and as quickly as possible. There's very little in terms of real quality. Of course there are some notable exceptions.
I worked at a brand new middle school last year, and the place wasn't very nice. Very shoddy construction in some places.
If Koreans could just bulldoze down about 90 percent of their country and replace it with new, quality stuff then the place might be ok. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| It would be difficult to rate Korea. I guess the best thing I can say is that it's home. |
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Badmojo

Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Location: I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| the_beaver wrote: |
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
It's not Korea that I love it's being in Korea. |
That's interesting, now what does it mean?
I don't love Korea. I love being in Korea.
Why do you love being in Korea, Korea and Koreans notwithstanding? |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Badmojo wrote: |
That's interesting, now what does it mean?
I don't love Korea. I love being in Korea.
Why do you love being in Korea, Korea and Koreans notwithstanding? |
Well, mainstream Korean culture itself is neither here nor there and while I don't dislike it on the whole, I'm not drawn to it either.
I love my job from both a teaching standpoint and from a benefits standpoint. I like how stepping outside can be a mini adventure. I like the challenge of finding where to get something that I want. I like eating live shrimp in the fall and frying shellfish in a ���帶�� in the winter and eating ���� at the train tracks in the summer. I like occasionally running into students from years gone by and doing a quick catch up on their lives like the student I had in 1995 when he was a middle school student in ������ who I found in my freshman English class in 2003 and the running into one of my students from ���� at 7 a.m. in the morning in ��赿 in Seoul. I like making fun of the by and large pathetic excuse for television programming and I like the cinematography of the movies and sometimes the story itself. I like making big games like scrabble and jeopardy for class and going to the print store and getting them printed on 1.5mX1.5m cloth for a measly 30,000 won. I like wandering around ��� looking at the gadgets and buying computer parts and electronic components and upgrading my computer and building first input quiz circuits and thinking how there's nowhere else like ��� in the world. I like buttered squid when I'm in the theater and I like eavesdropping on people who don't think I understand and I like the quasi-disbelieving reaction from Koreans while I read book written for Korean middle schoolers while riding the subway. I like the younger guys at �ձ because they call me �� and we have fun putting locks and holds and doing breaks and throws on each other. I like making fun of K-pop on the one hand and listening to great stuff like �ڿ츲 and ���꿡 and the newly discovered music of my student's band on the other. I like making fun of the studly Korean pop idols who, while looking as gay as is possible, make the female population weak at the knees.
This could go on forever. |
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Randall Flagg
Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Location: Talkin' trash to the garbage around you
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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I have really enjoyed my time in Korea so far and have no plans on living anywhere else in the near future.
I'd give it an 8/10. I deduct 2 points for the lack of marijuana and the harsh penalties that may come with finding some. |
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bosintang

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:35 am Post subject: |
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as an expat: 7.5/10 (B - solid but not wonderful)
as a local: 5/10 (D - marginal pass)
as a tourist: 2/10 (F - thanks for coming out) |
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