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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| the eye wrote: |
so, i'm going to give her a shiny, extra sharp one on teacher's day.  |
Parent of Student: Oh, Hagwon-owner-nim! Foreigner teacher giving weapons to children!
Hagwon-owner: You don't say! Bad foreigner teacher!  We deport her! (him)
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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no, no, no, Jongno... i'm giving my scowling manager a knife. not the student.  |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I cannot believe how so naive some Koreans can be when it comes to (a) believing everything some seven-year-old says about his / her teachers and (b) taking his absurd concerns seriously.
Do you have a digital camera? Maybe you could video little Sally slicing up her worksheets and then show Mummy if she ever comes into the directors office with her kid's latest fable. |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, i have the cut up paper as 'evidence', but the management is more concerned that it was MY actions that were dangerous, because i caused the knife to fly .
usualy things operate rather well around my school, but after all, foreigners are just not credible when it comes to the crying accusations of alittle 13 year old biatch. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Student: Mommy! Foreigner teacher made penknife jumping to my face! She too much scaring me! I feeling terrabowl! You please no sending me that scaring hagwon, pleeeeease! 
Mother: What!!?  You not worry about that! I making BIG kimchee stink for Hagwon-owner-nim right now!
Mother: Hagwon-owner-nim! My baby was to be cut of the face by foreigner teacher! I want to know, what you teaching that hagwon!!!!
Hagwon Owner: Oh my god!  (I'll showing that Eye Teacher! ) Thank you very much for your calling. 
Hagwon Owner: Eye Teacher! We better having talk about you threated to our students with the knives!
Eye Teacher:
(to be continued) |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| JongnoGuru wrote: |
Student: Mommy! Foreigner teacher made penknife jumping to my face! She too much scaring me! I feeling terrabowl! You please no sending me that scaring hagwon, pleeeeease!
Mother: What!!? You not worry about that! I making BIG kimchee stink for Hagwon-owner-nim right now!
Mother: Hagwon-owner-nim! My baby was to be cut of the face by foreigner teacher! I want to know, what you teaching that hagwon!!!!
Hagwon Owner: Oh my god! (I'll showing that Eye Teacher! ) Thank you very much for your calling.
Hagwon Owner: Eye Teacher! We better having talk about you threated to our students with the knives!
Eye Teacher:
(to be continued) |
What's most funny about this is how perfectly plausible it is. My favourite was when one kid who does absolutely nothing but goof off and couldn't go 30 seconds without screaming to save his life told his mother that I was 'stressing him' (KT's translation). Could someone tell me (phonetically) how you say 'the feeling's mutual' in Korean? |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:49 am Post subject: |
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Gu-do.
Him too |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for that. |
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Demonicat
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Man, I grew up in the Baltimore/DC area (for you canadians, its not a good area), so when the first little girl pulled a blade I thought it was on and we were about to go Columbine.
Arrgh, but what I'm actually posting about is that believing 7 year olds over us! I had a 10 year old tell the boss lady that I promised the whole class an ice cream party on some random day. She then asked me "Why you make promise you not keep?" And you can't say the kid's lying so you have to lower your head and say "yessa missus, I'll be mindin' my words 'round the chilluns" Ridiculous |
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MixtecaMike
Joined: 24 Nov 2003
Location: 3rd Largest Train Station in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| Just hit them fairly gently round the ears with your student list folder. Much less likely to leave incriminating scars than an exacto knife, even if it was "accidental." |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| i'm not sure what you mean , MixtecaMike. no-one and nothing touched the little liar. i make a strenuous effort not to use any contact in discipline. |
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turtlepi1
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| i'm not sure what you mean , MixtecaMike. no-one and nothing touched the little liar. i make a strenuous effort not to use any contact in discipline. |
Why as Westerners do we feel we are doing something noble by not "physically" punishing students in Korea when physical punishment is the expectation set in their society yet at the same time we will humiliate, withdraw attention and use other forms of punishment they do not associate with punishment for their infractions.
I feel the latter are far more scarring to a developing sense of self than the former...Punishment used alone is not the most productive motivator yet neither is reward. (Heaven/Hell, Carrot/Stick)
(note I am being a little hypocritical as I don't hit my brats either, but this is a subject I am dealing with as we speak in a course for my masters program.) |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I send my kids in the unheated hallway for a minute or two when they act up. . if they're really bad, I take their coats. |
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MixtecaMike
Joined: 24 Nov 2003
Location: 3rd Largest Train Station in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| turtlepi1 wrote: |
| Why as Westerners do we feel we are doing something noble by not "physically" punishing students in Korea when physical punishment is the expectation set in their society yet at the same time we will humiliate, withdraw attention and use other forms of punishment they do not associate with punishment for their infractions. |
A friendly slap around the ears sends a message to both receiver and the other students that X behaviour is not acceptable. Nobody is talking about beating their little brains out, or even physical pain. Some constructivist mumbo-jumbo about I will not let you partake in the fun activities because you are not respecting the autonomy of your co-learners might sound great in an ESL conference, but let's respect the Koreans a little more in their own classrooms.
The eye, I wasn't really implying you tried to knife the little darling. |
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turtlepi1
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| turtlepi1 wrote: |
| Why as Westerners do we feel we are doing something noble by not "physically" punishing students in Korea when physical punishment is the expectation set in their society yet at the same time we will humiliate, withdraw attention and use other forms of punishment they do not associate with punishment for their infractions. |
A friendly slap around the ears sends a message to both receiver and the other students that X behaviour is not acceptable. Nobody is talking about beating their little brains out, or even physical pain. Some constructivist mumbo-jumbo about I will not let you partake in the fun activities because you are not respecting the autonomy of your co-learners might sound great in an ESL conference, but let's respect the Koreans a little more in their own classrooms.
The eye, I wasn't really implying you tried to knife the little darling. |
Um...am I suppose to guess whether you were agreeing with me or taking issue with what I said...(basically I can't understand why you quoted me...)
My point was quite similar to yours but your tone seems to take issue with what I said... 
By the way, that smack in the ear in North America is likely to get you in a world of hot water if not fired depending on the school district you work in. (regardless of whether your intention was to point out the behaviour was unacceptable OR to bash his brains in...) |
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