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iiicalypso

Joined: 13 Aug 2003 Location: is everything
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:32 am Post subject: How do I negotiate out of my contract? |
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I desperately need some advice. I am four months into my contract, and I am going to give my thirty days notice tomorrow. I could see the writing on the wall, so I applied for, and was offered, a Uni gig. The only problem is, my boss has a bit of a reputation for being a hothead, and I need some advice on how to deal with him tomorrow.
He is already down on me for not being Korean enough for his tastes (go figure...) and I want to try and leave without any bloodshed. So, those of you who have been in this situation... how did you proceed?
Thanks a lot. |
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osangrl
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Location: osan
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Is this your first year in Korea?
No offense but if it is, i hope your boss is hotheaded.... charges you for airfare etc.
Im a firm believer that first timers need to put in their time.
Sorry. |
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iiicalypso

Joined: 13 Aug 2003 Location: is everything
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:40 am Post subject: |
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osangrl wrote: |
Is this your first year in Korea?
No offense but if it is, i hope your boss is hotheaded.... charges you for airfare etc.
Im a firm believer that first timers need to put in their time.
Sorry. |
Nope.
And thanks for your helpful response. |
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phaedrus

Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:42 am Post subject: |
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osangrl wrote: |
Is this your first year in Korea?
No offense but if it is, i hope your boss is hotheaded.... charges you for airfare etc.
Im a firm believer that first timers need to put in their time.
Sorry. |
Yes. The vets definitely own Korea. It's ours. It's our little club. |
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Badmojo

Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Location: I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:20 am Post subject: |
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What can you do exactly?
Mr. Hothead is going to feel cheated. Whether you give your notice or not. Whether you try to do things the right way or not.
But you have to be careful here. You need a release letter from Mr. Hothead to legally change schools. Of course people have written they left the country, handed their ARC in, went to Japan with the documentation from their new school, and got a new E-2. Release this, Hothead.
Tell him, I'm afraid I have to give my notice. If possible, tell them you can stay as long as it takes to find a new teacher to replace you. If it should take a little more than thirty days, you can stay the extra week. You will re-pay airflight (if you owe it to them), and other things as is written in the contract.
That's what I would do. |
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Badmojo

Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Location: I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:21 am Post subject: |
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[quote="iiicalypso"]
osangrl wrote: |
Is this your first year in Korea?
No offense but if it is, i hope your boss is hotheaded.... charges you for airfare etc.
Im a firm believer that first timers need to put in their time.
Sorry. |
And this is from someone who ran three times? |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Does your contract allow you to leave after giving 30 days notice? |
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osangrl
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Location: osan
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:36 am Post subject: |
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i haven't ran 3 times.
Once. My second year. |
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the eye

Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:55 am Post subject: |
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be prepared not only to pay for the airfare, which is required by law, but also have some bribe money handy.
if the guy is a hothead, he's probably old school. if he's old school, he's going to make you pay in order to leave.
i was involved in a struggle to get out of a job that misrepresented itself. the director would not let me go for sake of saving face. she knew she was in the wrong, but was damned if she would admit it by letting me go.
she started bribe negotiations at 1million. i got her down to 300,000. she was leveraging all kinds of 'expenses' that she said were incurred by me.
i was only working there for 3weeks, and i paid for the airfare in advance.
i'd be pissed if i knew my employee was quitting for a better job, so try to come up with 'reasons' why he is better off without you.
i don't like your odds. |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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For best results LIE!
Tell him that there has been a death in the family and you have to return home. You would like to come back to work for him but need a release letter in order to be able to get a new visa when you return. A grandparent would probably work best.
You are very sorry for the inconvenience and cant wait until you can return to working for him.
If he asks why the release letter tell him that he would have to sponsor a new teacher while you were gone and you dont want him getting into trouble with immigration.
Ogirl that time of the month? |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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What Grotto suggested might be worth trying, but it didn't really work for me. I went as far as buying a ticket home ( fully refundable ) and they wanted me to repay my airfare, and recruiter fees PLUS the airfare and recruiter fees of the new teacher!
I told them flat out that I didn't have it, so they docked my entire last month's pay.
Hope your situation turns out better than mine did. |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Peppermint did you go to the labour board?
I believe that they can only withhold, pension, taxes and health deductions from your pay without your permission. |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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How does lying help you to become a better person? Finish your job as you promised. If not, pay back the airfare and recruiting fee. |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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right...pay back the recruiter fee
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How does lying help you to become a better person? Finish your job as you promised. If not, pay back the airfare and recruiting fee. |
He is not asking how to become a better person! He has a job he apparently doesnt like, has a better offer waiting why the hell would he want to stick it out for another 8 months?
Pay back airfare? Okay sure. Pay recruiter fee? Not a snowballs chance in hell! |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Find him a replacement teacher that is VERY Korean-like before you go will most certainly ease things over. |
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