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[Hollywoodaction]

[Yesterday]

[Hollywoodaction]

Apology accepted.

Yes, lots of teachers complain needlessly (I found myself wondering how joyful it would be to work with one particular lady who was having a fit at Anam Market because another store was closed on that day eventhough it usually is open everyday of the week). But the blame doesn't always fall on the teachers shoulders. Simply put, not all employers are fit to work with foreign employees. Sure, people rant here. If it wasn't here, it would be somewhere else. But, you need to realize that a rant is sometimes nothing more than someone venting their frustration. Don't take it as face value. Personally, I find it more efficient to visualize a particularly annoying person's head being crushed by the weights as they go up and down on the machine while I work out, but that's just my twisted self. Just kidding. Actually, I couldn't care less. An annoyance is just a fleeting distraction.

[Yesterday]

[Yesterday]

There is one more reason - why I instantly mistrusted the OP teacher who placed this POST in the first place -

it was the TITLE of his Post - that is - "Bank account in recruiters name"..... and the post.....

[Hollywoodaction]

"I have met many teachers who have given falso certificates, references, testimonies etc - who cannot be trusted - the title and first post given by the OP here is totally misleading and false....."

I've met a couple of those, but not many.

Don't forget the point you made about schools that a few bad apples give a bitter taste to the rest.

[Yesterday]

[Yesterday]

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[OiGirl]

[Yesterday]

[babydriver]

I agree with about contacting efllaw for help. You have a right to ask questions and get advice on what to do.
When I worked in Korea for public schools, I was paid by the school and had a contract with them. They paid directly into my account, with no hassles in two years other than the very occasional day late.

Are all recruiters pond scum?The few (very) I've had contact with basically weren't interested in me because I'm older and experienced. I got my current job with the public schools on my own, without going through a recruiter.

[magnumface]

Hi, well good to see the debate has been raging. Well apologies to anyone who felt the title of my question was misleading. I can assure you that was not my intention as this would be entirely pointless for the purposes of getting matters cleared up for me.
I have no interest in having silly bitch about my employer but just thought the bank account set-up could lead to problems.
Just to clarify:
We came into Korea and worked at a summer camp with temporary work visa.
We signed a contract for 2 million a month to work with a man who has a language institute? (although I'm not sure if there are any students)- however the job was at a public elementary school.
Our mistrust has developed as he has lied about certain things
(promised us a two bedroom appartment - we're in a 1 room studio,
said he'd pay for a DHL courier for our transcripts - now he denies this
said he'd pay ALL expenses for Japan visa run - now he says he'll pay for a flight)
So naturally a man who will unashamedly lie raises suspicions when finicial matters arise.
We have two bank accounts (and one of the posters was correct, I apologise), they are both in our name, however he is the signatory, has the pin number and all control over one of the accounts.
Just wondered if anyone else had similar experiences.
About the spending all our time drinking in Itaewon drinking...
hmmm sounds very similar to the parental intrusion into your personal life that employers try. shouldnt bother to justify it but I will. Trust me I would have tried to sort out the other issue but our employer has left town for the holidays and we werent going to sit in the one room studio crying about the possible dodgyness (or not) of the situation

[tomato]

Hello, Magnumface!

Have you seen this?

http://www.efl-law.com/korea_home.html

[Yesterday]

Okay - I used to trust ESL-Law before - however after reading that - they seem to just be a team of scum-bags making money of ESL Teachers sometimes unfortunate situations -

I once needed there help - and emailed them a 10-page email about my situation - and they just replied with a standardised email - that just asked simple questions - they probably email everyone - that I had already informed them about in my 10-page email....

However this time - they seem not to have done their research (they are based in Japan) and the 2 (two) bank account thing has already been investigated by BOTH the POLICE and the GOVERNMENT Deapartment involved in Foreigner Relations - and it was deemed....

"there is nothing Illegal about it (there is nothing wrong with it)......

so where EFL-LAW comes OFF criticizing shows proof that they are nothing - just a bunch of loser Lawyers who run scams themselves and KNOW nothing of what they are talking about.....

making money from Unfortunate Teachers problems.......


IN FACT - I have been teaching Korea almost 6 years now - 2 1/2 years in the Hagwons and 3 1/2 years in the Public Schools - ALL of my last 3 1/2 years in the Public schools I have had 2 bank accounts - one where the school pays the money INTO and the School Manager deducts TAX, etc and my Korean associates salary - and I am left with MY SALARY - ALWAYS CORRECT and ALWAYS on MY PAY-DATE - never Late....

I KNOW exactly how much money is going In and OUT and I have always been happy with with -

NOW lets take a HAGWON approach to THINGS - lets say a typical small HAGWON with 120 students paying 160,000 won per month - gives a NET INTAKE of 19,200,000 won (19 million won) - the 3-4 korean teacher get paid 1,200,000 (4.8 million won) you are paid 2 million won and the DIRECTOR is left woth 12 MILLION won + your health/pension/TAX money because its a SCAM and your DIRECTOR actually DEDUCTS these from YOUR salary bu POCKETS it HIM/HERSELF.....

BIG SCAM....................

NOW take the PUBLIC SCHOOL with 2 bank accounts.....

the school pays the money into the 1st account...... the school Manager then deducts TAX money, and your Korean Associate Teachers Salary (1,2 million) and your salary is left which is then transferred into your sencond bank account)..............

THERE is NO SCAM in this........ IT has ALREADY been investigated by the PROPER authorities (NOT suome 3rd sumbag party like EFL-LAW) and was deemed NOTHING wrong with it.......

AT least you know how much money is being paid into and out to each person - not like a SMALL HAGWON (15 million won per month DIRECTOR)

[canadian_in_korea]