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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:50 am Post subject: Are you strict? |
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| Usually I am not strict. But I think it works better and the students learn more with a strict teacher. Sometimes I feel like, OK no BS this class, and it surprises them but they do tend to shut up a bit more and actually try to focus on an English lesson more than usual. When I don't tolerate much Korean in the class I (and they) realize just how poor their English is (knew that anyway), and how much practice they really need just to say basic stuff they "studied" before. They may be at book 5 in a given series, but not speak, or even really understand the teacher speak, the book 2 material. Too much time was wasted and they didn't really learn it that well. They just cruise through stuff without getting much of it. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:52 am Post subject: |
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My girls aren't allowed to wear nailpolish to school.
I told them I'd pull out their fingernails if I ever saw them wearing it to class.
That brought a big, "OOOooh!"
ahhaahha.
I really don't care, but I like to tease them about school policy. |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Depends on what your definition is of strict.
Some rules I have for the classroom:
1. Listen to the teacher
2. Dont talk when the teacher is talking
3. No cell phones. If I see or hear a cel phone I confiscate it. First time one day, second time one week, third time I will call my family and friends in Canada on your cel phone and when your parents get the bill they will punish you (never had to take a phone away more than once)
4. No gum
5. Be prepared bring a pencil, pen, eraser and your books.
If you are not prepared you dont get to sit in a chair. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| I dont' know if I'm strict but I'm defintely mean. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| I'm easy. |
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cellphone
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:24 am Post subject: |
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| To both Grotto and Crazylemongirl, are the both of you working in public schools? Because I've been in a hagwon, and I can say without a doubt that I don't think either of what you said would fly much at all in a Hagwon. seems to me you are there to serve them. The little kids get away with the stuff, you either wing or accept it, but ultimately they win. I'm saying that's the way it has appeared for me. Could I be wrong at least part of the time? |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:42 am Post subject: |
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They are rules....they are children....if they followed the rules all the time I would drop dead on the spot.
I do work in a public school now but used the same rules for the last two years in hogwans.
Usually I would post the rules at the front of the class, in Korean and Engllish, and if the kids got out of hand I would point to it and they would settle down a bit.
I always talked it over with the owner first. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| I'm young women. I work in a public school with middle school boys. There are 40+ in a class. Most of the time I have to be mean. If I give them an inch they take a mile. |
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nrvs

Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Location: standing upright on a curve
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:00 am Post subject: |
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Don't you have to be strict?
Kind of. I'm loud and super-energetic in class with my Grades 5 and 6 elementary schoolers; the English performer thing seems to work well. However, if students start talking to each other or screwing around I get strict real fast.
Well, I don't whack the kids with sticks like my boss and the Korean teachers do. However, if they talk to each other in class, ESPECIALLY while another student is reading aloud, they know they're going outside. To get whacked by my boss. No joking -- roams the hallway with his stick! I don't think I'll ever use the one in my classroom, yet it sits ominously atop the blackboard.
My hogwan's setup works pretty well. It has a reputation of being "strict." No games ever, no Korean, everyone in their seats for the entire 80-minute class, and so on. The students know this implicitly and most of 'em don't cross the line. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Kids are happier once you set clear boundries and a structure to enforce them.
It seems the more complex the reward/punishment structure is the more they actually enjoy it. They like the fairness of a complex set of rules. Everything positive they do is rewarded and everything negative they do is punished (in a humane way of course!!!). Kids dig that sort of thing.
I work in a lot of ways to earn points and lose points. Points equal the level of homework or games they receive. |
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MixtecaMike

Joined: 24 Nov 2003 Location: 3rd Largest Train Station in Korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:26 am Post subject: |
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I agree that strict is good, the worst teaching jobs I have ever had (not in Korea) were where I was trying to be nice and the kids thought I was just soft.
In Korea I'm not super strict but I won't take too much. If they don't take my easy punishments seriously then they get steadily meaner punishments. Lucky my boss is pretty tight on discipline, and for the real hard cases he will deal with them the Korean way.
And I watch and smile,  |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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