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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Nightmare visa run Reply with quote

I went to Fukuoka (sp?) with only one page left for a visa (or so I thought). Well, it turns out it was for ammendments (I didn't bother to read that page before I went to the consulate, obviously). The guy at the Korean consulate told me to go to the American embassy to get new visa pages sewn into my passport, and I only had 40 minutes to do this (at 12:00 they go to lunch, and if you come back after lunch, you can't get your visa issued that day- I was only in Fukuoka for the day).

At the American consulate (turns out they are open to appointments only, and that day, it wasn't open for services). The receptionist was sympathetic, and she told me everyone had already gone to lunch, and that I should come back at 2pm. So, I went back to the Korean consulate to try to get them to start processing my paperwork, but the guy refused. Well, I went into the bathroom and burst into tears (I have dogs at home, and I hadn't planned to stay overnight- I was seriously stressed). When I came out of the bathroom, the guy called me over and said he would start on my visa. Yay!

I went back to the American consulate at 2pm, but no one talked to me until 3pm. The guy at the consulate said that my passport was in really poor condition, and I would need a new passport, which would take about 2 weeks to process. I told him I had a return ticket for that evening, and I couldn't stay in Japan for 2 weeks, etc. After listening to my sob story, and a lengthy lecture from him that I should have known better (true), he said he would put new pages into my passport, but I had to get a new passport once I returned to Seoul. He said he was going out on a limb for me (and I fully realized that), so I signed a document promising to get a new passport, and I went on my merry way back to the Korean consulate. No more problems after that.

Well, I was stupid and unprepared, to say the least. I didn't have any kind of back-up plan. I didn't take a lot of yen, because I didn't want to lose money in the buying/selling process. My ATM card is useless overseas, and I have no idea about western union. I didn't give my neighbor a key to my apt. to take care of my dogs in case something happened.

I promised the guy at the American embassy that I would write something on-line about my debacle so that this won't happen to someone else. I consider myself a savvy traveller, but I really thought my visa run would be a breeze- I had all my paperwork, passport, about 30,000 yen (around 300,000 won, I believe), and a credit card.

Oh! One more thing! I almost missed my flight to Fukuoka because the woman at the check-in counter INSISTED that I go to immigration and get a re-entry permit. I told her I didn't need one because I was coming back on a different visa, but she refused to believe me (I started to think, "Well, maybe they changed the laws or something..."). There must have been 15 people waiting at immigration, and I had 45 minutes before my flight left!!! I butted in front of everyone else with profuse apologies, and the immigration guy said I was right, the agent was wrong. He wrote me a quick note to give to the agent. I gave it to the agent with an "I told you" (she said nothing- not even an apology- grrrrrrrrrrr!). So! My point here is that I got to the airport 1 1/2 hours early, thinking that I could hit an express line for people who weren't checking luggage- well, there wasn't a check-out counter open that day for day trippers (or light travellers).

So, go ahead and berate me for my stupididty- I've learned my lesson! I hope this will be a warning to my fellow travellers- be prepared for anything, and have a back-up plan!
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MixtecaMike



Joined: 24 Nov 2003
Location: 3rd Largest Train Station in Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG, what a day. I vote this one gets stuck in the FAQ!
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that sucks.
here's my admission to stupidity, in case it may make you feel better.

when i went there for my first visa run, i was told the last chance to change won for yen would be at the airport.
i thought this meant the airport IN JAPAN. yes, stupid, i know.

i would have changed my cash in busan airport if i had the time, but a series of snafus in getting from Daegu to Busan left me with no time to do so. i missed my stop at Gupo station, so i went too far on the train and had to backtrack in a taxi to get to the airport. barely made it.

i didn't mind spending the extra money on this mistake because my boss paid for the flight and gave me 200,000won spending money.

arrived in Japan, and was told to my suprise that my won was useless. i had cut up my credit cards (for tax purposes) before i left canada days ago. i was now really worried that i had made an unrepairable mistake.
i had no bank card, just small amounts of canadian and american $s left over from my flight to Korea.
and i also just developed a nasty case of diarhea from dinner the previous night.

i ran from the excahnge counter to the bathroom just in time.
back to the exchange counter, i traded my small stash for yen and took a subway to the embassy area.
a clenched walk, and 3 hard to find public batthrooms later, i arrived at the embassy during lunch. i had to wait. the diarhea was getting worse. now, i was regretting using that butter i left to soften up on my table for 2 days before this trip.

after the embassy lunch was over, i returned to beg the staff to exchange some yen. one official reluctantly agreed to exchange some pocket money at a very unfavorable rate (for me). all my free spending money was disappearing fast.
the agony of my internal organs was culminating and i sat down on the waiting chairs for a rest. i called back to korea on the public phone to see if the boss could pay for my visa and hotel with her credit card and i would pay her back on my return.
she told me to call her back because she had to check with her husband. that next return call would basically use up all the yen i had just exchanged. the phone was ridiculously expensive.

i made another trip to the toilet and then sat down next to this hefty american guy in the waiting room.
we got to talking and he said he was there on 'official business' because he was involved in a legal suit against immigration for some bullshit visa stuff.
he ended up exchanging $100 american with me, at an even worse exchange rate. what could i do, tho. i even had to sit thru 20 minutes of his bull about how he's been cheated too many times, and he was out to reform the visa system, and he's been to court countless times on his own expense, and the embassy staff are corrupt...yadda yadda yadda.

i was glad to have exchanged the cash, even though my ass was erupting again.
i spent the rest of the day and night on the toilet in my hotel room.
so much for my free trip to Japan.
the next day, i felt fantastic, but i had just enough time for my visa pickup and subway ride back to the airport.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eye wrote:
that sucks.
here's my admission to stupidity, in case it may make you feel better.

when i went there for my first visa run, i was told the last chance to change won for yen would be at the airport.
i thought this meant the airport IN JAPAN. yes, stupid, i know.


Heh. I did the same thing 4 years ago. Took a 150,000 won ride to the KEB downtown to change my won to yen, only to have to fork it all over to the cabbie. Luckily, my recruiter wired money to the girl working at the consulate, and she kindly visited her local bank and got the cash for me.

It's fun to laugh about it now.

Sparkles*_*
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can sympathize as well.

I missed the transfer on the subway in Osaka (Japanese only) in 2002, and missed my flight. Was broke, almost. Spent 24 hours hanging out at the airport. Nice birthday that was. Well, it was different.
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, I think we've all had our incredibly dumb moments. I've had 2 involving my passport and one of them was just last month (there is a thread about that one, but I don't think it is worth linking to). glad it all worked out in the end.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eye wrote:
that sucks.
here's my admission to stupidity, in case it may make you feel better.

when i went there for my first visa run, i was told the last chance to change won for yen would be at the airport.
i thought this meant the airport IN JAPAN. yes, stupid, i know.

i would have changed my cash in busan airport if i had the time, but a series of snafus in getting from Daegu to Busan left me with no time to do so. i missed my stop at Gupo station, so i went too far on the train and had to backtrack in a taxi to get to the airport. barely made it.

i didn't mind spending the extra money on this mistake because my boss paid for the flight and gave me 200,000won spending money.

arrived in Japan, and was told to my suprise that my won was useless. i had cut up my credit cards (for tax purposes) before i left canada days ago. i was now really worried that i had made an unrepairable mistake.
i had no bank card, just small amounts of canadian and american $s left over from my flight to Korea.
and i also just developed a nasty case of diarhea from dinner the previous night.

i ran from the excahnge counter to the bathroom just in time.
back to the exchange counter, i traded my small stash for yen and took a subway to the embassy area.
a clenched walk, and 3 hard to find public batthrooms later, i arrived at the embassy during lunch. i had to wait. the diarhea was getting worse. now, i was regretting using that butter i left to soften up on my table for 2 days before this trip.

after the embassy lunch was over, i returned to beg the staff to exchange some yen. one official reluctantly agreed to exchange some pocket money at a very unfavorable rate (for me). all my free spending money was disappearing fast.
the agony of my internal organs was culminating and i sat down on the waiting chairs for a rest. i called back to korea on the public phone to see if the boss could pay for my visa and hotel with her credit card and i would pay her back on my return.
she told me to call her back because she had to check with her husband. that next return call would basically use up all the yen i had just exchanged. the phone was ridiculously expensive.

i made another trip to the toilet and then sat down next to this hefty american guy in the waiting room.
we got to talking and he said he was there on 'official business' because he was involved in a legal suit against immigration for some *beep* visa stuff.
he ended up exchanging $100 american with me, at an even worse exchange rate. what could i do, tho. i even had to sit thru 20 minutes of his bull about how he's been cheated too many times, and he was out to reform the visa system, and he's been to court countless times on his own expense, and the embassy staff are corrupt...yadda yadda yadda.

i was glad to have exchanged the cash, even though my ass was erupting again.
i spent the rest of the day and night on the toilet in my hotel room.
so much for my free trip to Japan.
the next day, i felt fantastic, but i had just enough time for my visa pickup and subway ride back to the airport.


Dammit. Your one story tops both of my stories about my first visa run to Fukuoka, and my diarrhea dilemma while stuck on a bus travelling through the sticks and rice paddies of backwater Gyeongsangnamdo. Mad
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

casey's moon wrote:
yep, I think we've all had our incredibly dumb moments. I've had 2 involving my passport and one of them was just last month (there is a thread about that one, but I don't think it is worth linking to). glad it all worked out in the end.


So you didn't get caught working illegally until it got stamped. Good for you.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the eye wrote:


arrived in Japan, and was told to my suprise that my won was useless. .


I saw a Korean woman trying to communicate with the info. girl at the airport in Osaka. The Korean woman spoke Korean and the Japanese girl spoke English to her, and I translated a little (funny to both of them).

Anyway she wanted to know where she could change Korean won. The Japanese girl said, "There is only one bank in Osaka where you can change won to yen."

I don't know where.
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chronicpride wrote:

Dammit. Your... story tops... my diarrhea dilemma while stuck on a bus travelling through the sticks and rice paddies of backwater Gyeongsangnamdo. Mad


I don't know. I imagine no story can top any one man's diarrhea dilemma.

I remember using a Lotteria near closing time. I hadn't eaten there. A frantic search of the neighborhood found no public washrooms. I had to go for it. They had already closed the second floor and were cleaning floors. I had to interrupt, and finding the men's stall taped up, sneak to the women's washroom. There were no other options by this point other than that, the floor, or my pants. Of course the lock was broken, so I had to hold the door shut with my shoe. Luckily I had tissue in my pocket. I would have traded just about anything for a throne in those minutes leading up to the release.

No one else would care if I had crapped my pants, except my wife's family during the car ride, but for me, I'd take a century of visa runs, however bad, over a repeat of that fear filled ten minutes.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phaedrus wrote:
chronicpride wrote:

Dammit. Your... story tops... my diarrhea dilemma while stuck on a bus travelling through the sticks and rice paddies of backwater Gyeongsangnamdo. Mad


I don't know. I imagine no story can top any one man's diarrhea dilemma.

I remember using a Lotteria near closing time. I hadn't eaten there. A frantic search of the neighborhood found no public washrooms. I had to go for it. They had already closed the second floor and were cleaning floors. I had to interrupt, and finding the men's stall taped up, sneak to the women's washroom. There were no other options by this point other than that, the floor, or my pants. Of course the lock was broken, so I had to hold the door shut with my shoe. Luckily I had tissue in my pocket. I would have traded just about anything for a throne in those minutes leading up to the release.

No one else would care if I had crapped my pants, except my wife's family during the car ride, but for me, I'd take a century of visa runs, however bad, over a repeat of that fear filled ten minutes.


all mool-dung is created equal, and hath equal fury.

what was this thread about, anyway?
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great story Periwinkle! Now that it's over, I mean. Wink

Two lessons I think are useful for anyone doing a visa run to Japan: 1) Prepare for the possibility that you will have to spend a night, anything can happen; and 2) it's impossible to underestimate how expensive Japan really is. Bring lots of money.
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nateyb



Joined: 28 Dec 2003
Location: witness protection program (or Bundang)

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

worst ever... by far.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
"There is only one bank in Osaka where you can change won to yen."

I don't know where.


The Korean Exchange Bank!

Sparkles*_*
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bosintang wrote:
1) Prepare for the possibility that you will have to spend a night, anything can happen; and 2) it's impossible to underestimate how expensive Japan really is. Bring lots of money.


Definitely true. I'm off to Fukuoka next weekend for a visa run. I'm going to spend the first 5 days exploring Kyushu on a rail pass, and then I left myself 2 full days and 3 nights in Fukuoka in case of complications at the consulate. I also just bought 100,000 yen for the week. I spent a week in Japan a couple years ago, and that's about how much I blew through during the course of that week.

Getting there, however, is quite cheap. Yesterday I bought a round-trip plane ticket (just a week in advance) for Incheon-Fukuoka for 190,000 won (235,000 won including tax).

Also, as I've said many times on this board, if you want to do some exploring in Japan, rail passes are an amazing deal, and available only to tourists like us, so take full advantage. Last time I went all over Honshu on a 7-day JR rail pass for about 280,000 won. This time I'm getting the 5-day JR-Kyushu rail pass for 160,000 won. Saves you a ton of money.
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