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Safety #1: Subway Safety.
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panthermodern



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Safety #1: Subway Safety. Reply with quote

Here are some tips that will increase your personal safety on the subway.

-Take your Time. If possible, do not rush. Give yourself time in your travel to not be rushed. If you are rushed you are not as alert. In addition charging forward, being at the front of the pack, only exposes your back.

-Stand away from the track. Keep yourself at leave two body lengths from the edge of the track so if you fall, or are pushed, you will not fall on the tracks.

-Stand when waiting, against a wall or a pillar. Or, at least in proximity to a wall or pillar.

-When exiting the train, walk slowly and follow the crowd. This will elminate the possibily of people being behind you and make it more difficult for you to be followed.

-If there are security cameras, try to stand in the middle of the picture.
Pick Pockets and planned attacker avoid being directly on camera.

-Avoid using subway washrooms, if possible.

-Keep your eyes open, if possible. Pretending to be asleep will cut down your ability to sense possible danger.

-Check out the car. Look around for the emergency alarms and door levers. If there is a back out it is too late to look.

-Fire: Low and slow. More people are injured from the panic then the flames in most fires. Do not run blindly about, get down out of the smoke and think for a second. Trapped people are usually trapped by panic not by the situation. Smoke is more dangerous then fire.

-Use the buddy system. The US Armed forces strongly suggests to it's fit and trained killers to never go anywhere alone. You would be wise to do the same.

-Light. When I sused to commute by subway every day I always carried a small flashlight, a maglite (tm) keychain. It is dark down there.


Korea is a pretty safe place to be honest, but ........
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AJRimmer



Joined: 31 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And for God's sake don't talk to any of the women folk Very Happy
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panthermodern



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Taxronto

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red Dwarf was cool.

LOL ... that's only funny 'cause it is true.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always stand away from the tracks. It was good practise in Toronto and here sometimes I think "yeah, last thing I need is some crazed Korean who sees me and thinks 'I lost my GF to a white guy!' and shoves me onto the tracks."

The only weird thing I had in a Korean subway washroom was a drunk Korean guy trying to check out my John Thomas. That was freaky. I was at the end of a whole row. No one else was using the urinals. This drunk guy came in, saw me, and rushed right to the urinal next to me and kept looking down and over. I just wish I knew how to say "Careful, it's big and can smell your fear" in Korean.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And look out for the C.H.U.Ds.

Sparkles*_*
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ChooChooPongPong



Joined: 15 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the religious fanatics that are the most dangerous. I was reading a book and minding my own business and a few of those manic street preachers were on board harrassing the demons out of the car. One stood next to a guy and wouldnt stop talking to him about Jesus no matter how much the guy ignored him, and everyone on the train was both scared and p.o'd. I thought I'd get ignored but they stopped in front of me and asked "Jesus?" Smile and nod is all you can really do.

Anyone notice that you get more glances and inspire more conversations on the subway since mid January? Have any of those free mini-newspapers carried the stories at all?
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChooChooPongPong wrote:
It's the religious fanatics that are the most dangerous. I was reading a book and minding my own business and a few of those manic street preachers were on board harrassing the demons out of the car. One stood next to a guy and wouldnt stop talking to him about Jesus no matter how much the guy ignored him, and everyone on the train was both scared and p.o'd. I thought I'd get ignored but they stopped in front of me and asked "Jesus?" Smile and nod is all you can really do.


If Jesus were alive today and saw what was being done in his name, I don't think he could stop throwing up! (from Woody Allen's "Crimes & Misdemeanors).

BTW, Good advice PM. Cheers!
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChooChooPongPong wrote:
It's the religious fanatics that are the most dangerous. I was reading a book and minding my own business and a few of those manic street preachers were on board harrassing the demons out of the car.


Did they sing "Motorcycle Emptiness"?

Sparkles*_*
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paperbag princess



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red dwarf was cool...


riding the subway is dangerous? whatever, that's total fear mongering.
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Blind Willie



Joined: 05 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paperbag princess wrote:
riding the subway is dangerous? whatever, that's total fear mongering.

Fear-mongering? Why I think you simply have no faith in the idea that the whole Korean nation has lured us here in order to ritualistically kill us all to protect the women folk from our demon seed.

That having been said, Panthermodern gave some good advice for the most part.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought he was talking about NYC subways, until the last line of his post?
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChooChooPongPong wrote:
I thought I'd get ignored but they stopped in front of me and asked "Jesus?" Smile and nod is all you can really do.



Or, you could say "Yes, I am Jesus" in Korean, spread your arms out to form a cross, kick off your shoes and stick a foot out as if expecting it to be washed by him.
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Chillin' Villain



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Goo Row

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "two body-lengths away from the edge" rule there is good (obviously it's good, but I'm mentioning it to set up an anecdote...)

Last Friday I was at Chongo 3 station at hometime rush hour. Crowded platform. Anyways, we're all familiar with the casual shoulder-shoving that goes on here. Some young-ish guy walked by some ajuma and half bumped into her. She was behind the yellow line, but the shove sent her stumbling right into an oncoming car. Nothing tragic happened, as the train was already halfway into the station, but she came perilously close to going into the gap between two cars. THAT would've been..... bad.

The banshee-riffic scolding that ensued was the stuff of legend.
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vlcupper



Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chillin' Villain wrote:
The "two body-lengths away from the edge" rule there is good (obviously it's good, but I'm mentioning it to set up an anecdote...)

Last Friday I was at Chongo 3 station at hometime rush hour. Crowded platform. Anyways, we're all familiar with the casual shoulder-shoving that goes on here. Some young-ish guy walked by some ajuma and half bumped into her. She was behind the yellow line, but the shove sent her stumbling right into an oncoming car. Nothing tragic happened, as the train was already halfway into the station, but she came perilously close to going into the gap between two cars. THAT would've been..... bad.

The banshee-riffic scolding that ensued was the stuff of legend.


Yeah, dude. I saw a picture of the outcome of something like that.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read they are going to install walls and gates in the subways similar to what they have in Fukuoka.

That would be a good idea.
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