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miniD
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Location: rok
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:00 am Post subject: weigh in on these |
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Job hunting indecision is making me crazy. First search in Korea. What ya'll think?
1. Private girls' high school, Sunchon, 2 mil, 3 mos. vaca
2. Hogwan, Pyeongchon, 3 mil, 1wk vaca ($$)
3. Hogwan, Wonju, 2.2mil, 4wks vaca (real nice director & coworkers)
4. Uni, Daejeon, 2mil, 4mos vaca (if offered, tee hee)
Okay, so I didn't get the uni offer...yet. And just a little beta: most all things not mentioned (airfare, housing, etc.) are comparable, hours differ but no splits, weekends or kinder; and I don't mind being out of Seoul. Might even prefer it. But I've never been to Sunchon (or Daejeon for that matter) -- any thoughts?? Thanks ya'll! |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:28 am Post subject: |
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It all depends on what YOU want. Why does anyone work? For money!
Get the best deal for yourself and stick it out for the year...network during the year for a better position, location. Travel around korean when you have the time and see what places you'd like to live. No one can say what is the best area or the best contract...different people have different needs and desires, etc.
Hakwons? Stay away from if possible. Hakwon owners are in business to make money...at YOUR expense. But...if a hakwon is the only choice...get the best contract you can. Vacation? Two weeks at least...and when YOU want it. Not when the hakwon owner says. Pay? You already know. Housing? Don't share. Never. No homestay either. You'll learn a lot the first year. Get educated and go from there.
Korea and koreans are no more special than any other county or people. You'll meet some great people and some not so great...just like back home. But remember...it's not your country, no one forced you to come to korea...and you have to do things the korean way. Don't try and change korea or koreans to be like the west. You'll go crazy! |
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phaedrus

Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:29 am Post subject: |
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I don't know anything about the cities, but if you plan on staying for more than a year, the vacation is a good idea, so go with the high school, or the university if you get it.
If you are coming for just a year, you can manage a vacation before or after the contract, so I would go for the hagwon for the cash. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Is Sunchon in Kyonngi-do?
I am curious, because my advisor at my Private high school told me that according to Kyonngi law, we now had to sign a contract that said 2 weeks vacation only. But he'd give us more.
I'm taking them for their word for now. Call me stupid, but as I told them, if they lie, I'll be handing in my resignation. I'll go home and start my Masters earlier... so what. |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Suncheon is down past Gwangju and from what I understand, it's TINY. Could be very isolating for someone new to the country. |
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miniD
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Location: rok
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Hellofaniceguy? Do you mean guywiththebigyap? Who said anything about westernizing Korea, or anything even remotely like that? Innocent me only wanted to know if anyone out there had insight into private girls' school vs. high-paying hogwans vs. unis. Jeesh. Oh, I just checked your profile, and intigator you are.
Cheers.
To the others and potential responders, thanks. Oh, and Sunchon is on the south coast.  |
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zappadelta

Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:58 am Post subject: |
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How do you know the coworkers in Wonju are nice? |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:35 am Post subject: |
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hellofaniceguy wrote: |
It all depends on what YOU want. Why does anyone work? For money! |
I work at a university so I can have 4+ months vacation. Money is incidental, tho' it's enough to finance my vacations. |
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miniD
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Location: rok
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:35 am Post subject: |
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met em |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:36 am Post subject: Re: weigh in on these |
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miniD wrote: |
1. Private girls' high school, Sunchon, 2 mil, 3 mos. vaca
2. Hogwan, Pyeongchon, 3 mil, 1wk vaca ($$)
3. Hogwan, Wonju, 2.2mil, 4wks vaca (real nice director & coworkers)
4. Uni, Daejeon, 2mil, 4mos vaca (if offered, tee hee) |
1) Long vacation and living on the coast sounds good to me.
2) Three million without split shifts? Might be worth it if you want to save up for something expensive.
3) A good rapport with staff is very important for me. Makes it more enjoyable.
4) A university job is a foot in a different market, unless it's basically a hagwon by another name.
Is the numbering system by coincidence? That's how I'd rank them. |
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ohfamous

Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Location: Off the beaten path
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:11 am Post subject: |
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hey mini,
stirctly going from the facts you've presented, i'd personally go for the uni job (if you get it), then the high school job. in general, they'll beat the hagwons concerning vacation, educational goals (i.e. less business-centered), and even money (if housing is included or not and if you feel like doing a camp during part of your vacation).
good to hear that you're having to beat off job offers with a stick!  |
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teachingld2004
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:15 am Post subject: schools |
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I would like to know what hogwon gives 3 million won, I can't believe it. UNLESS that offers no apartment, and that includes housing. AND it has to have split shifts or 40 hours a week. If I am wrong, sorry about not believing you.
ALso find it hard to believe that you can get a great deal unless they meet you first.
Yes, there are great deals out there if you can start tomorrow, but they are few.
I do wish you the best of luck, but do not believe everything that is advertised. |
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JacktheCat

Joined: 08 May 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:23 am Post subject: |
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sniff, sniff. Anyone else smell the BS? |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:46 am Post subject: |
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I would ignore any hogwan offer over 2.5. |
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margaret

Joined: 14 Oct 2003
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Is the 3 month vacation paid? Do you keep your housing during that time?
What's the housing like for all the jobs?
Margaret |
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