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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:23 am Post subject: '10% Koreans Married to Foreigners - But Not For Long' |
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10% Koreans Married to Foreigners--But Not For Long
"Overall, I think the proportion of problem families to ordinary families is 7:3. But all cross-cultural families have problems," said Min Myung-suk of Cheonan, South Chungdheong Province, who has been married to a Filipina for nine years.
It is mostly the Korean husbands who are responsible for the failure of such marriages, according to experts. "Men are responsible 90 percent of the time. They should help their foreign wives to adapt to life in Korea," but they do not, believes lawmaker Kim Chun-jin, a member of the National Assembly's Social Affairs and Welfare Committee. Experts say Korea must take positive steps to cope with the realities of an era in which 10 percent of Koreans are married to foreigners. That includes helping wives from other cultures adjust to Korean society, and providing advice and help to Korean husbands and their foreign wives to lead happy lives.
But they add that some restrictions are necessary to prevent unscrupulous international matchmakers from ruining marriages before they get under way, for instance by lying to the women about their prospective husbands, or lying to the men about the women.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200502/200502100006.html |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: Re: '10% Koreans Married to Foreigners - But Not For Long' |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
| 10% Koreans Married to Foreigners--But Not For Long |
Considering that the birth rate is something like 117 boys to 100 girls in South Korea, I think the ratio of Korean men marrying foreigners is going to go up if anything. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: '10% Koreans Married to Foreigners - But Not For Long' |
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| JacktheCat wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
| 10% Koreans Married to Foreigners--But Not For Long |
Considering that the birth rate is something like 117 boys to 100 girls in South Korea, I think the ratio of Korean men marrying foreigners is going to go up if anything. |
I think two generations of the Abort-a-Female cohorts have yet to hit adulthood. But soon. My theory is this will prompt reunification. Much like east and west Germany where every young woman in the east went west and married a west German. There were like a couple generations of blue-balled east German men that couldn't get a coffee date. How can you compete with a guy driving a BMW and hot and cold running water?
Anyway, if the north and south reunited, there would be a huge migration of young Korean women south. There's a totally untapped source of real, live Korean brides north! No importing these lesser Filipinas or Viet women! This will be Korean thinking I'm sure. |
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vlcupper
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:22 am Post subject: Re: '10% Koreans Married to Foreigners - But Not For Long' |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| JacktheCat wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
| 10% Koreans Married to Foreigners--But Not For Long |
Considering that the birth rate is something like 117 boys to 100 girls in South Korea, I think the ratio of Korean men marrying foreigners is going to go up if anything. |
I think two generations of the Abort-a-Female cohorts have yet to hit adulthood. But soon. My theory is this will prompt reunification. Much like east and west Germany where every young woman in the east went west and married a west German. There were like a couple generations of blue-balled east German men that couldn't get a coffee date. How can you compete with a guy driving a BMW and hot and cold running water?
Anyway, if the north and south reunited, there would be a huge migration of young Korean women south. There's a totally untapped source of real, live Korean brides north! No importing these lesser Filipinas or Viet women! This will be Korean thinking I'm sure. |
Aren't North Koreans big fans of the Abort-a-Female thing? |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| Considering that the birth rate is something like 117 boys to 100 girls in South Korea, I think the ratio of Korean men marrying foreigners is going to go up if anything. |
From the CIA World factbook:
CHINA
at birth: 1.12 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.13 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.06 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.91 male(s)/female
total population: 1.06 male(s)/female (2004 est.)
total: 25.28 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 21.84 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 29.14 deaths/1,000 live births (2004 est.)
A lot more females seem to die at birth though, so the gender gap is worse than stated I think.
SOUTH KOREA
at birth: 1.09 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.12 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.03 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.67 male(s)/female
total population: 1.01 male(s)/female (2004 est.)
total: 7.18 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 7.64 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 6.68 deaths/1,000 live births (2004 est.)
More males die at birth than females in South Korea totally unlike China. I am not sure why...
NORTH KOREA
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.03 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 0.97 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.52 male(s)/female
total population: 0.94 male(s)/female (2004 est.)
total: 24.84 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 26.59 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 23 deaths/1,000 live births (2004 est.)
Well, I guess that is one positive for North Korea. Their gender ratio is not so out of whack.
For comparision:
UNITED STATES
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.71 male(s)/female
total population: 0.97 male(s)/female (2004 est.)
total: 6.63 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 7.31 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 5.91 deaths/1,000 live births (2004 est.)
FRANCE
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.69 male(s)/female
total population: 0.95 male(s)/female (2004 est.)
total: 4.31 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 4.83 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 3.78 deaths/1,000 live births (2004 est.)
CANADA
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.01 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.74 male(s)/female
total population: 0.98 male(s)/female (2004 est.)
total: 4.82 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 5.28 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 4.33 deaths/1,000 live births (2004 est.)
So there you go. China and South Korea are bad. North Korea is in line with the Western world. Go figure... |
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dogbert
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:43 am Post subject: Re: '10% Koreans Married to Foreigners - But Not For Long' |
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| JacktheCat wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
| 10% Koreans Married to Foreigners--But Not For Long |
Considering that the birth rate is something like 117 boys to 100 girls in South Korea, I think the ratio of Korean men marrying foreigners is going to go up if anything. |
I prefer to think that there will be an epidemic of open male homosexuality instead. |
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vlcupper
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:16 am Post subject: Re: '10% Koreans Married to Foreigners - But Not For Long' |
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| dogbert wrote: |
| JacktheCat wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
| 10% Koreans Married to Foreigners--But Not For Long |
Considering that the birth rate is something like 117 boys to 100 girls in South Korea, I think the ratio of Korean men marrying foreigners is going to go up if anything. |
I prefer to think that there will be an epidemic of open male homosexuality instead. |
One of my friends totally agrees with you.
The title of this post makes it sound like the government is going to make all the Korean people married to foreigners get a divorce. I wouldn't be surprised if that did happen in the future. |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: '10% Koreans Married to Foreigners - But Not For Long' |
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| vlcupper wrote: |
| dogbert wrote: |
| JacktheCat wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
| 10% Koreans Married to Foreigners--But Not For Long |
Considering that the birth rate is something like 117 boys to 100 girls in South Korea, I think the ratio of Korean men marrying foreigners is going to go up if anything. |
I prefer to think that there will be an epidemic of open male homosexuality instead. |
One of my friends totally agrees with you.
The title of this post makes it sound like the government is going to make all the Korean people married to foreigners get a divorce. I wouldn't be surprised if that did happen in the future. |
Yeah, right.... |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Guri Guy wrote: |
From the CIA World factbook:
CHINA
at birth: 1.12 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.13 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.06 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.91 male(s)/female
total population: 1.06 male(s)/female (2004 est.)
total: 25.28 deaths/1,000 live births
male: 21.84 deaths/1,000 live births
female: 29.14 deaths/1,000 live births (2004 est.)
A lot more females seem to die at birth though, so the gender gap is worse than stated I think. |
I am surprised. Medically speaking, females are stronger than males at birth, so their survival rate is a lot higher. They always say that a girl's chances of surviving is much higher than a boy's if they were both born premature at say 30 weeks.
(May be they kill girl babies, so they can try again for a boy - heaven forbid.. but it could just be true..)... |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| tzechuk wrote: |
I am surprised. Medically speaking, females are stronger than males at birth, so their survival rate is a lot higher. They always say that a girl's chances of surviving is much higher than a boy's if they were both born premature at say 30 weeks.
(May be they kill girl babies, so they can try again for a boy - heaven forbid.. but it could just be true..)... |
I'm shocked you don't know this tzechuk, coming from China.
What they're doing is aborting the female fetuses after checking the baby's sex on an ultrasound and then trying again for a boy.
This is why ultrasounds are illegal in mainlaind China (except for medical emergencies) and Korea is considering doing the same.
Considering the birth ratio, it must be around 10 to 15% of all mothers who are doing it.
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Hollywoodaction
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| 10% of Koreans married to foreigners? I doubt it. |
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JacktheCat
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| Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:57 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| 10% of Koreans married to foreigners? I doubt it. |
You'd be surprised.
A lot of Korean rice farmers out in the boonies have a Filipino mail order bride.
Even if there were enough women, what Korean woman wants to marry a poor rice farmer when she can move to the glitz and glamour of Seoul. |
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hellofaniceguy
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| Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:28 am Post subject: |
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And the failure of most of the marriages....quote; "It is mostly the Korean husbands who are responsible for the failure of such marriages, according to experts!"
Just imagine how korean women must feel...knowing they are stuck in a bad marriage! |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Hollywoodaction wrote:
10% of Koreans married to foreigners? I doubt it.
You'd be surprised.
A lot of Korean rice farmers out in the boonies have a Filipino mail order bride.
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Plus, the figure might include Koreans married to "diaspora Koreans", like Chinese-Koreans and whatnot. Those marriages would probably go unnoticed by the average person walking down the street. |
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Hollywoodaction
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| Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Hollywoodaction wrote:
10% of Koreans married to foreigners? I doubt it.
You'd be surprised.
A lot of Korean rice farmers out in the boonies have a Filipino mail order bride.
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Plus, the figure might include Koreans married to "diaspora Koreans", like Chinese-Koreans and whatnot. Those marriages would probably go unnoticed by the average person walking down the street. |
There aren't that many Korean-Chinese around. In any case, it's very deceitful of the reporter if those numbers include Korean who became naturalized citizens of other countries. |
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