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Need a PhD? No. $96,000 per year teaching without PhD
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The universities in the United States also have trouble getting music instructors to try for advanced degrees. In the music profession, there are too many other sources of prestige. And some of them are prized more highly than advanced degrees.

My violin teacher was a full professor in my the college in my hometown, and she only had a Masters degree.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An example of a professor without a PH.D.
Note: He is a tenured faculty member.

Ward Churchill, B.A., M.A., Communication, Sangamon State University
Professor, Department of Ethnic Studies, University of Colorado
http://www.colorado.edu/EthnicStudies/faculty/w_churchill.html

On Monday, Churchill, who has heard himself branded as "Osama bin Churchill" in recent commentary, voluntarily stepped down as chairman of the CU Ethnic Studies Department, taking a pay cut of about $18,000, but retained his position as a tenured faculty member.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3522241,00.html

Churchill resigned his position as head of the CU Ethnic Studies program but kept his $96,000 per year teaching post.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=84027

Churchill's membership in tribe honorary only
By Stuart Steers, Rocky Mountain News (February 4, 2005)
http://www.aimovement.org/moipr/cherokee.html

According to Jodi Rave, a well-known Native journalist and member of the Mandan-Hidatsa-Arikara Three Affiliated Tribes [in North Dakota], Churchill was enrolled as an ''associate member'' of the Keetoowah by a former chairman who was later impeached. The one other known member of the same program, since discontinued, was President Bill Clinton. Rave said that she made this discovery as a student in a journalism class at the University of Colorado. She was also in a class taught by Churchill. When her article came out, she said, he dropped her grade from an A to a C minus.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/02/1719903.php
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote:
Fascinating. Couldn't happen back home.

Of course it happens back home, if you are from Canada.

I know at least two full professors, in English and Philosophy, who only had master's degrees. They are older, and that may be why.

Maybe the profs in the Korean universities who have full professorships are also the older generation, in their sixties now.
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canadian_in_korea



Joined: 20 Jun 2004
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deconstructor wrote:
TECO wrote:
Can anyone call themselves "Professor" if they teach in a college/university?


Anyone have more info on the legit usage of this title "Prof"?


Actually professorship is a title given to a lecturer at a university. Like you said, you have to have done your homework: be published, etc.

In French language however, you can be called a professor even if you teach at a high school or primary school. I teach at both in Montreal and everyone calls me "professeur".


Someone correct me if I'm wrong but in the French language "professeur" literally means "teacher..I believe there is no distinction between a teacher and a professor ...at least from what I can remember learning French. Does anyone know if this is correct?
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and no. Although 'professeur' can be used alternately for teacher or professor in French, 'enseignant' is the lexical equivalent of the word teacher.
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maiden's iron



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: professor with a BA Reply with quote

Something interesting to consider. A journalism professor told my class that professors of journalism do not require an MA or a PhD. Apparently the only qualification is experience in the real world. That was relevant to the US about 10 years ago but not sure if it's stiill true there or anywhere else.
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