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DrewAgain
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
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| In Canada, lots of university students say "That's gay" when they hear something not to their liking, giving the term a negative connotation. They're good people, but nevertheless use the term "gay" in vain freely. Homophobia doesn't respect borders. |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| DrewAgain wrote: |
| In Canada, lots of university students say "That's gay" when they hear something not to their liking, giving the term a negative connotation. They're good people, but nevertheless use the term "gay" in vain freely. Homophobia doesn't respect borders. |
This post is pretty gay. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| fidel wrote: |
| As Jaga said, your topic heading is all encompassing , implying that you believe all Koreans are ignorant. |
On this issue he's more than 95% right, from what I've gathered. Has anyone tried telling Korean homophobes that their women look like lesbians walking around holding hands all the time? |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| DrewAgain wrote: |
| In Canada, lots of university students say "That's gay" when they hear something not to their liking, giving the term a negative connotation. They're good people, but nevertheless use the term "gay" in vain freely. Homophobia doesn't respect borders. |
I use it in vain all the time - I don't see it as a negative thing, really. If I'm drunk I might even use faggot in vain; it perpetuates misconceptions of what being gay is, I suppose, but it's one of those things that's completely about context.
Had a Newfie get upset with me when I asked him if he worked in a fish plant; he responded with 'that's like asking someone are you gay?'. I'm like, what the hell's wrong with either question? I was tempted to call him a typical Newfie homophobe but held back. |
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DrewAgain
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
I use it in vain all the time - I don't see it as a negative thing, really. If I'm drunk I might even use *beep* in vain; it perpetuates misconceptions of what being gay is, I suppose, but it's one of those things that's completely about context.
Had a Newfie get upset with me when I asked him if he worked in a fish plant; he responded with 'that's like asking someone are you gay?'. I'm like, what the hell's wrong with either question? I was tempted to call him a typical Newfie homophobe but held back. |
Right, it's not a negative thing. So when the original post mentions how "One student said "I would take my friend to the hospital," it doesn't mean the person is ignorant. Although it's pretty hard to prove, the hospital remark was probably intended as a half-joke.
Regading the other examples, I'm skeptical in believing them, as I believe they're exaggerations. Everyone exaggerates when telling stories to make their point more clear. Not just the original poster, but everyone. I find it really hard to fathom that any twenty-something could ask whether homosexuality is a contagious disease. People are just not that stupid. |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| DrewAgain wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
I use it in vain all the time - I don't see it as a negative thing, really. If I'm drunk I might even use *beep* in vain; it perpetuates misconceptions of what being gay is, I suppose, but it's one of those things that's completely about context.
Had a Newfie get upset with me when I asked him if he worked in a fish plant; he responded with 'that's like asking someone are you gay?'. I'm like, what the hell's wrong with either question? I was tempted to call him a typical Newfie homophobe but held back. |
Right, it's not a negative thing. So when the original post mentions how "One student said "I would take my friend to the hospital," it doesn't mean the person is ignorant. Although it's pretty hard to prove, the hospital remark was probably intended as a half-joke.
Regading the other examples, I'm skeptical in believing them, as I believe they're exaggerations. Everyone exaggerates when telling stories to make their point more clear. Not just the original poster, but everyone. I find it really hard to fathom that any twenty-something could ask whether homosexuality is a contagious disease. People are just not that stupid. |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| DrewAgain wrote: |
| In Canada, lots of university students say "That's gay" when they hear something not to their liking, giving the term a negative connotation. They're good people, but nevertheless use the term "gay" in vain freely. Homophobia doesn't respect borders. |
Gay, like the word "qu eer", does not have the sole definition "likes members of the same sex". Gay also implies fanciful in an unnecessary fashion. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
Gay, like the word "qu eer", does not have the sole definition "likes members of the same sex". Gay also implies fanciful in an unnecessary fashion. |
Does that make The Rocky Horror Picture Show double gay?
Sparkles*_* |
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tommynomad
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Are Koreans really this ignorant? |
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| matko wrote: |
| The fact is, Koreans, in general, are homophobic and extremely ignorant about homosexuality. |
Not my experience, not the homophobia, anyway. I've been here a total of 16 months. I have run into 2 openly gay bars, been the object of a pickup attempt by a very hot korean man in a club, and had more than a few conversations about homosexuality with Koreans. My friends and acquaintances might be uninformed, or even in denial ("Gay people? in Korea?") but I haven't met with any of the hateful vitriol I've experienced throughout the Americas (North, Central and South). |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| Just one question: Who are you to judge a culture that has existed for 5000 years by western standards? |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| Just one question: Who are you to judge a culture that has existed for 5000 years by western standards? |
Kinda sad that after 5000 years they have failed to make progress in areas which have taken newer, more civilized societies significantly less time, non? |
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vlcupper
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| Just one question: Who are you to judge a culture that has existed for 5000 years by western standards? |
Kinda sad that after 5000 years they have failed to make progress in areas which have taken newer, more civilized societies significantly less time, non? |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Why should they follow a bunch of arrogant fascist westerners? It's their culture. Who do you think you are to try to impose your values on them?Do they try to come to west and force you to put dog soup on your menus? No.
If you don't like it there, go back to Canada and starve. Who are you to say which culture is more or less advanced? |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:23 am Post subject: |
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You're right; collapsing department stores and bridges are much more preferable to non-collapsing department stores and bridges. And the traffic fatality numbers here, while shocking, do somewhat help to control the peninsular population.
Korea has it right in all areas; I am just too dumb to see it. I'll keep that in mind the next time I have the gall to criticize a Korean doctor for giving me antibiotics for a common cold, or wash my hands after using the bathroom.
Thx,
Sparkles*_* |
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tommynomad
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| Who are you to say which culture is more or less advanced? |
I'd say respect for people's differences, and tolerance are excellent yardsticks of a culture's advancement. |
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