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textin



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:18 am    Post subject: paid help wanted by Korean speaker Reply with quote

Hi,

I am looking for a Korean speaker who can help me to negotiate with my old employer. They kept some money from my last pay check for airfare which was not covered in contract. They terminated my contract early due to declining student numbers to save money but then kept the airfare money as well. My contract only gave then the right to keep airfare money if I was fired or left early.

I want to negotiate for 1/3 of the airfare money which is how long I was through my contract. I think this is reasonable.

I will pay 25% of whatever you can get if you are successful.

I will provide their cell number and details.

Email me :
[email protected]
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not call the Labor board? It's free, and they have the power to force your boss to pay up (sort of).

After that, you probably won't have a job there, but why would you want to continue working for him anyway?
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alecng



Joined: 24 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:46 am    Post subject: Delaying Payment Reply with quote

Anyone has more information about the Labor Board? My boss kept delaying my payment. He owes me about a month pay. What if it comes to the worst, where can I go for help and complain? Thank you.

Alec
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

textin wrote:
They terminated my contract early...My contract only gave then the right to keep airfare money if I was fired

textin wrote:
I want to negotiate for 1/3 of the airfare money which is how long I was through my contract. I think this is reasonable.


dude, you just said that your contract allows them to keep your airfare if you were fired or left early. well, they fired you. you lose the airfare. what part didn't you understand?

in addition, you were only 4months into your contract. the standard for reimbursement of one way fare is 6 months.

how do you plan on negotiating what is not lawfully yours?
i think you should just worry about catching up with that turnip truck.


http://www.molab.go.kr:8787/English/law/sub_1.jsp
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textin



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: to correct you Reply with quote

They didnt fire me, they asked me to work part time instead of full time, to save money for them during a tight financial situation.

Even if they did fire me, they would have needed a reason.

My contract was full time, with "gauranteed pay and hours". Not part time. So I left to find a new full time job. Contract was broken by them.

Dont look for a job as a legal adviser matey.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: to correct you Reply with quote

textin wrote:
They didnt fire me, they asked me to work part time instead of full time, to save money for them during a tight financial situation.

Even if they did fire me, they would have needed a reason.

My contract was full time, with "gauranteed pay and hours". Not part time. So I left to find a new full time job. Contract was broken by them.

Dont look for a job as a legal adviser matey.


You might like to explain to a court the fine difference, if difference there be, between their having terminated the contract and firing you.

Might be tough ...

Simply put, they terminated the contract = they fired you. Bite the bullet and mark it down to experience.
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textin



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: experience Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice, but I prefer to gain the extra experience of seeking the airfare (or at least half of it) plus the 20 days notice they didnt give (as per contract) via the Labor Department.

Cheers
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing to lose I guess so press on - I wish you well ol' bean ... I'd love to be proved wrong (it has happened before) so let us know how you get on, OK?
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textin



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:39 am    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

I have talked to an English speaking lady at Suwon immigration, close to the school.
She has advised of a the place on the website to file details (online).
She said negotiation is the first option but this other way is the formal way and can take up to 2 months.
Will give it a crack and post back with results.

In the meantime the school are down to one teacher (where they wanted to be) and no doubt quite happy with the way things have panned out- kept the airfare (last months salary) and didnt have to give any notice at all. In effect, giving them a teacher for 4 months with absolutely no additonal charge....in effect getting a part time teacher at full timer rates..no additional fees.

I dont think the Labor Department will have trouble seeing it for what it was. Plus I have the letter they gave me asking me to change to part time the next week.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why didn't the school reimburse your airfare when you got there?
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prairieboy



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally, the labour won't do a thing unless you have been employed for at least 6 months. You were employed for 4 months.

You can always try though. Good luck with your situation.

I'd personally send the tax man to visit. No one likes to pay taxes let alone a hagwon owner. He's probably been scamming someone somewhere. Check your earning slips and check with the tax office to see if he paid them the withholding tax on your salary. You may be in for a surprise.

Cheers
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prairieboy wrote:
Generally, the labour won't do a thing unless you have been employed for at least 6 months. You were employed for 4 months.


exactly.

textin, they fired you.
their reason was managerial/financial.
you said so yourself.
you were not working there long enough to collect the airfare. part timers cannot collect airfare.
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Sage Monkey



Joined: 01 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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textin



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:57 am    Post subject: the eye and sage monkey Reply with quote

You guys are what I would describe as 'wet'.
Have you ever been chalanged before and actually tried to defend youselves?
An E2 teaching visa and contract say nothing about some '6 month' rule that you will not get any help in that time.
Contrary to your belief system, based ona feeling I suspect of helplessness, departments such as the MOL in Korea have many people working there who's job it is to help resolves such issues, including foreigners' issues.
The lady I spoke to there has also made that clear.

I have little respect for 'wet' people who's advice is to bury ones head if the going gets tough. And further to advise others to do so, in a bid to encourage all others to become equally wet. With the ideals that if only the rest of the World was as wet as they are, then we could just bury our heads in the sand and there would be no problems anymore.

Part of Korea's path to further social and economic development is in improving its standards and methods in such areas- for foreigners and Koreans alike.
If no one makes an effort to encourage such development then it will certainly never happen.

The day I take and sort of advice from a 'wet person' would be sad day indeed.

You go and bury your heads if it makes you happy boys, I am more content to move on and learn what is possible and what is not for myself. And I enjoy the challange what ever the outcome. Plus one can learn from it. Thats how people progress and have a chance to get ahead.


Maybe its just a personality difference but wet people with wet attitidues, I find rather pathetic.

If I do get a good result, I dont think I will post it here, as it would be like feeding the lizards....they will most likely benefit from it and then just hang around longer...

Cheers guys
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not from being wet or helpless but from 30 years of dealing with contracts.

The contract was terminated.

Any claim you have would be ex gratia.

With a goal of receiving one third of a one way air ticket and then giving away 25% of that there must be a more productive way to waste time.
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