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The Glorification of Ketchup

 
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Zenpickle



Joined: 06 Jan 2004
Location: Anyang -- Bisan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: The Glorification of Ketchup Reply with quote

Help me with an analogy, please.

What is the socially gastronomic equivalent in Korea for ketchup? Don't say gochujang because it is not as much of a culinary pariah as ketchup is in our culture.

Ketchup is good for fries, street food, and maybe meatloaf. But when you get something like quail eggs, a luxurious item we pay top dollar for in the U.S., and mix them with ketchup -- I don't know. It's like pouring a glass of fine champagne and spitting in it.

I'm trying to find a way to communicate to your average Koreans that ketchup and bottled mayonnaise are not the gourmet items they're treating them as.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe soy sauce?

Like ketchup, good for dipping things in (mandu, raw fish) used a bit here and there in some cooking, but on the whole it's usually used to mask the taste of something else.

Much like using ketchup on meatloaf. I hate meatloaf.
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xtchr



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no 'culinary pariah' factor in Korea, because absolutely everything is 'delicious' and 'good for the health', Rolling Eyes so that's why most feel free to mix and match foods and condiments at will.
Please don't give anyone ideas about spitting in champagne. There's enough spitting in this country as it is. Very Happy
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps kimchi.

Kimchi pizza, kimchi burgers, kimchi stew, kimchi cookies. Throw some kimchi in that there bowl of corn flakes, see if it flies.

Sparkles*_*
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Zenpickle



Joined: 06 Jan 2004
Location: Anyang -- Bisan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Perhaps kimchi.

Kimchi pizza, kimchi burgers, kimchi stew, kimchi cookies. Throw some kimchi in that there bowl of corn flakes, see if it flies.

Sparkles*_*


Honestly, logically, kimchi pizza may not be a bad idea.

1. Its has garlic -- which is heavily used in Italian cooking.

2. It's hot and pickled -- as is my other favorite pizza topping, jalapeno peppers

The trouble is that I'm not sure how cabbage will hold up in a 500-degree Fahrenheit oven.

I'm also a big fan of anchovies on pizza. But if I mention that to a Myaelchi Bokkum-loving Korean -- "Oh no! You can't do that!"
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zenpickle wrote:

I'm also a big fan of anchovies on pizza. But if I mention that to a Myaelchi Bokkum-loving Korean -- "Oh no! You can't do that!"


But potatoes (regular AND sweet), sour cream, corn and kimchi are all prevalent toppings on Korean pizzas.

I'd like to see:

- beondaeggi pizza

- dog meat pizza

- gochujang-instead-of-tomato sauce pizza

Yum!

Sparkles*_*
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Zenpickle



Joined: 06 Jan 2004
Location: Anyang -- Bisan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:

But potatoes (regular AND sweet), sour cream, corn and kimchi are all prevalent toppings on Korean pizzas.

I'd like to see:

- beondaeggi pizza

- dog meat pizza

- gochujang-instead-of-tomato sauce pizza

Sparkles*_*


Okay, Sparkles, we're going to have to have a Gourmet Night.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in Incheon airport the other day & one of the giftshops had a prominent display of kimchi chocolates. Now theres a concept. Kind of kicking myself now for not picking up a box, just for the oddity factor.
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Zenpickle wrote:

I'm also a big fan of anchovies on pizza. But if I mention that to a Myaelchi Bokkum-loving Korean -- "Oh no! You can't do that!"


But potatoes (regular AND sweet), sour cream, corn and kimchi are all prevalent toppings on Korean pizzas.

I'd like to see:

- beondaeggi pizza

- dog meat pizza

- gochujang-instead-of-tomato sauce pizza

Yum!

Sparkles*_*


What about pizza kimbap?
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
What about pizza kimbap?


I'm all for pizza kimbap. And ddeokbokki stuffed with cheese, and bacon bibimbap, and...

Actually, now that I think aboot it, I'm surprised that kimchi-flavored potato chips have yet to make their debut. I'm game for that, mostly because the wife is always getting after me for the little chip bits I invariably leave behind in our kimchi container. You ever try picking up a piece of fermented cabbage with a potato chip? It's hard!

Sparkles*_*
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coolsage



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look forward to the day when SALSA will be widely available in these parts. Koreans have a misplaced notion that their food is spicy. I'd like to see a Korean chow down on a serious burrito or a vindaloo, and witness the re-definition of 'spicy'. There'll be some major colon-cleansing then.
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