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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, to further explain my statement: the Korean government writes the language policies, but does little to enforce them (changes are only on paper). Korean teachers rely on the grammar translation method, which has been proven to be ineffective, to teach grammar, instead of using a more communicative approach to teach conversation (qualifications are wasted if the teacher doesn't properly apply his or her training to induce language acquisition). And, many Koreans are almost proud to say they cannot speak in English even if they've studied it for years (what we call 'unilingual pride' in Linguistics). Those aren't only my impressions. I'm paraphrazing foreign and Korean researchers in Sociolinguistics. Putting all of the blame on 'unqualified' foreign teachers for the failures of English education in Korea is missing the point .
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Zenpickle



Joined: 06 Jan 2004
Location: Anyang -- Bisan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if this is a sign of things changing, but the new foreign teachers for my soon-to-be former school are being delayed a week because of a "new rule" at Immigration where they take extra time to verify degrees.

For almost a full week, the school will be short three teachers.
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inkoreaforgood



Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zenpickle wrote:
I'm not sure if this is a sign of things changing, but the new foreign teachers for my soon-to-be former school are being delayed a week because of a "new rule" at Immigration where they take extra time to verify degrees.

For almost a full week, the school will be short three teachers.


New rules = give them more money.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inkoreaforgood wrote:
Zenpickle wrote:
I'm not sure if this is a sign of things changing, but the new foreign teachers for my soon-to-be former school are being delayed a week because of a "new rule" at Immigration where they take extra time to verify degrees.

For almost a full week, the school will be short three teachers.


New rules = give them more money.



That is EXACTLY what I was thinking. More opportunity for a bribe.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The corruption isn't as simple as that. You have to know them, and be friendly with them, to bribe them. They don't take envelopes from anyone, that way they'd just get caught.

It's not that simple; bottles of Royal Salute, room salons, then bribes. I don't think they take envelopes from small people and they certainly don't take them over the counter.

It takes more than simple cash to bribe a government official.
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cellphone



Joined: 18 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
It's not that simple; bottles of Royal Salute, room salons, then bribes. I don't think they take envelopes from small people and they certainly don't take them over the counter.


Really? What you said sounds quite feasable, but would they (Hagwon owner) really do all that just for a teacher or two?
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
The corruption isn't as simple as that. You have to know them, and be friendly with them, to bribe them. They don't take envelopes from anyone, that way they'd just get caught.

It's not that simple; bottles of Royal Salute, room salons, then bribes. I don't think they take envelopes from small people and they certainly don't take them over the counter.

It takes more than simple cash to bribe a government official.


You'd be surprised. I've seen it happen when I'm even in the room.

Same goes for the bribing that goes on in the medical community. Doctors that intake new patients can sometimes expect to get little envelopes in their pockets from concerned families.

It's remarkably prevalent on a near pathetic level.
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thebum



Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Location: North Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that really irks me about this is that people are so hung up with degrees. I can understand wanting to have an educated person teach, but simply having a bachelor's degree in no way qualifies one to teach English.

I am planning on going to Korea to learn Korean (I'm somewhat of a linguaphile...) after graduating with my degree in linguistics this summer. I've been studying Korean for 2 years in Minnesota. I will support myself by teaching English. I've been trained in TESL/TEFL, and I've been teaching/tutoring English to nonnative English speakers here in Minnesota for over 2 years. Specifically, I've TAed for university ESL classes, I've done a lot of private tutoring, and I've volunteered at schools teaching English to refugees and immigrants.

I've been looking for places to work. CDI looks decent. They seem to pay pretty high and they require applicants to take an English test to work there. A friend of a friend of a friend of mine who works there failed the test his first time, but now that he's working there he likes it a lot.

Coincidentally, I currently happen to be taking a class called "Korean Mass Media and Popular Culture". It's very interesting, and what's happening now seems to be on par with what we've studied and discussed hitherto.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's with the Korea fetish?
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
What's with the Korea fetish?


He has studied the intricate ways in which they roll those R's off of their delicate tongues, and he yearns to be here.
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stalinsdad



Joined: 25 Jan 2003
Location: Jeonju

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bum i'm not being nasty but after a few years here you'll not be so condescending. Shocked
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stalinsdad



Joined: 25 Jan 2003
Location: Jeonju

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bum i'm not being nasty but after a few years here you'll not be so condescending. Shocked
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stalinsdad



Joined: 25 Jan 2003
Location: Jeonju

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bum i'm not being nasty but after a few years here you'll not be so condescending. Shocked
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Blind Willie



Joined: 05 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stalinsdad wrote:
The bum i'm not being nasty but after a few years here you'll not be so condescending. Shocked

It's true... You'll probably be worse.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He has studied the intricate ways in which they roll those R's off of their delicate tongues, and he yearns to be here.


Ah, yes. Same reason I came here.
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