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vlcupper

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:50 am Post subject: |
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lastat06513 wrote: |
I was on the plane with a guy who went to the Korean Embassy (filthier then the dirtiest toilets in NYC)
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Anybody else not surprised? |
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Blind Willie
Joined: 05 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Derrek wrote: |
Blind Willie wrote: |
Awww... poor boy wants a six month toursit visa. |
Don't need one. I'm legal. |
Awww...I'm sorry Derrek. I wasnt trying to imply you wanted to be an illegal worker. I just jumped to a conclusion that you were scapegoating some of your favorite scapegoats based on your past history of being a tool.
Looking through this thread some more, I see you being a scapegoating tool is not history at all. |
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Suntzu
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:34 am Post subject: Letters to SBS |
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I haven't seen the show yet. But everyone is asking me if it is true at my school. One woman told me that the show stated that only 5% of teachers here are working legally (is that part true?). It would be nice to send some letters to SBS. (Does anybody know how to contact them) This pathetic moral panic is out of line. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:05 am Post subject: |
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TV Program Warms Up Foreign Teacher Controversy
Foreign teachers are once again the talk of the Internet. Saturday's edition of the SBS investigative program "I Want to Know That" reports English teachers in Korea engaging in sex with underage local girls, offering drugs to students and faking qualifications.
English teachers have been under the spotlight since one posted demeaning comments about Korean women on the web early this year and risque pictures from a mixed party were released. There have been calls to expel all English teachers from the peninsula.
The report, entitled "Is Korea their Paradise? Report on the Real Conditions of Blond-haired, Blue-eyed Teachers," reveals that teachers at some language schools engage in sexual relations with middle and high school students and offer their students marijuana. It says some teachers use fake academic records to get jobs with local private language schools, universities and businesses. The show includes fresh explosive comments by foreign teachers like, "I think only 5 percent of foreign English teachers in Korea are qualified," "Korean women are the easiest women to get into bed," and "I think of Korea as a big cash machine."
Immediately after the broadcast, the bulletin board on the program's website was flooded with over 1,000 furious posts. "I was so infuriated after the broadcast that I couldn't sleep," one read. "I'm frightened to send my children to an English academy," read another. "Foreign language institutes must do some soul-searching," said a user giving their name as Han Seon-yeong. "We must quickly deport all those low-quality foreign English teachers who try to pick up girls near Hongik University or Apgujeong."
The extreme nature of some of the attacks has led to concerns for the safety of foreign residents in Korea. "After watching the broadcast, I began to look differently at the native English speaker who teaches in the elementary school where I work and the Korean English teacher who works in the same classroom," a user giving her name as Yun Eun-hwa said. "I wonder if because of people like me, Koreans married to foreigners or those who have to work with foreigners might be afraid to go out in the street now." And indeed, user Im Mi-mi, who says she is married to a foreigner, said, "Since the show aired on Saturday, I've been afraid to go out... It's absolute nonsense that I should now look like a *beep* just because I live with a foreigner."
The fallout of the broadcast has hit private institutes where foreign English teachers work. When critical posts began flooding the bulletin board of a famous language institute, the school on Sunday placed a notice on its website telling visitors that the broadcast had nothing to do with their establishment. SBS confirmed the program was not about the private school in question and suspended VOD service of the program on its website.
by Kim Jae-eun, Chosun Ilbo (February 21, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200502/200502210020.html |
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matko

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: in a world of hurt!
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
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That's friggin BRUTAL!
Good luck guys.
Seriously. |
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trevorcollins
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Hey Matko, if I die you can have my skank smelling bathroom slippers. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:46 am Post subject: |
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The report entitled
"Is Korea their Paradise? Report on the Real Conditions of Blond-haired, Blue-eyed Teachers" |
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matko

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: in a world of hurt!
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:54 am Post subject: |
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trevorcollins wrote: |
Hey Matko, if I die you can have my skank smelling bathroom slippers. |
I will lick them with RELISH!!!!
But, seriously. I read a little more and found that the Korean women are even more of a target!!
That is friggin sad. |
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nateyb

Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Location: witness protection program (or Bundang)
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:14 am Post subject: |
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I am wondering where this goes from here? Will we see those hapless cause-heads take to the streets? |
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Hanson

Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Hey Trevorcollins, that's got to be the most disturbing avatar yet...
At least I'll have the nightmares to look forward to... |
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jurassic5

Joined: 02 Apr 2003 Location: PA
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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so will this stop korea from being the hub of asia?
why don't they do stories about what a normal english teacher does:
go to school...teach, come home, eat, drink some beer with friends, come home and go online and post on here.
also, shouldn't the program have investigated the school for hiring the applicant without doing a proper background check? |
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vlcupper

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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jurassic5 wrote: |
so will this stop korea from being the hub of asia?
why don't they do stories about what a normal english teacher does:
go to school...teach, come home, eat, drink some beer with friends, come home and go online and post on here.
also, shouldn't the program have investigated the school for hiring the applicant without doing a proper background check? |
How would Koreans be the victims in that? |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Location: Inchon
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Heads up people. I think that we all need to be aware that this issue is not going away anytime soon, and that there are likely to be several incidents involving Koreans and foreigners now. Keep your eyes open, and your wits about you. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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I think, (yes, sometimes I do that ) that this is going to have a negative effect on ESLers across the board. Immigration is already implementing some new "regulations" and doing extra backgroud checks.
Not, that those are a bad thing, but I am sure that more legitimate teachers are going to be needlessly hassled.
I know I had trouble the last time because my degree was written in Latin.
God knows what they will try and pull on me next time.
For those places who hire illegal teachers, it's basically their own fault. They usually offer such bad working conditions and such ridiculous contracts that no legitimate teachers would work for them.
So they hire whomever they can............ yeah well, like they say,
you get what you pay for. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Real Reality wrote: |
TV Program Warms Up Foreign Teacher Controversy
"...There have been calls to expel all English teachers from the peninsula." |
Do you think they mean all (foreign) English teachers here, or would they just round up the males of the species and leave the females in place?
Real Reality wrote: |
TV Program Warms Up Foreign Teacher Controversy
"...We must quickly deport all those low-quality foreign English teachers who try to pick up girls near Hongik University or Apgujeong." |
Where, oh where is the emphasis here?
"low-quality" -- So, the high-quality ones can stay?
"near Hongik University or Apgujeong" -- So, Itaewon, downtown and the rest of the country are safe?
"try to" -- So, if you succeed we'll let you stay here, but if you strike out with a girl, you're a$$ is on a plane?
I don't know why, but it's fun picking apart angry threats like these. Whether it's the Norks vowing to turn us all into strawberry jam or this bunch south of the 38th vowing to toss ex-pats en masse off the peninsula, I always get distracted by the muddle-headedness of the actual wording and never get around to fretting about being boiled in oil or whatever they're offering. |
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