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What is a good online masters degree program?
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bellum99



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: What is a good online masters degree program? Reply with quote

Can anyone actually recommend a good school to use? I want to take a masters program but i want it to actually be worth the money.
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Incognito



Joined: 20 Dec 2004
Location: Teacher centered hell!!!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm considering these two. Both are down under.

http://www.une.edu.au/arts/LCL/disciplines/linguistics/appl_ling.htm

http://www.ling.mq.edu.au/
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incognito wrote:
I'm considering these two. Both are down under.

http://www.une.edu.au/arts/LCL/disciplines/linguistics/appl_ling.htm

http://www.ling.mq.edu.au/

So are THOUSANDS of others.

Those are degree mills getting a rep for churning out many graduates who are neither good academics nor great teachers.

So I was told by some recruiters and employers at an ESL job fair outside of Korea. In Korea, however, maybe they'd be respected.
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Grotto



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a wee bit pricey too. 17,000$ for an online course?
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For $17000 I could spend a year abroad and pick up two or three more languages. I think that's a bit much.
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Incognito



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
Incognito wrote:
I'm considering these two. Both are down under.

http://www.une.edu.au/arts/LCL/disciplines/linguistics/appl_ling.htm

http://www.ling.mq.edu.au/

So are THOUSANDS of others.

Those are degree mills getting a rep for churning out many graduates who are neither good academics nor great teachers.

So I was told by some recruiters and employers at an ESL job fair outside of Korea. In Korea, however, maybe they'd be respected.


Thanks for the objective response.

Did the recruiters and/or employers you spoke to mention what programs they considered respectable?

Thanks

Incognito
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Scott in HK



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my Masters in Education through Deakin University.

I was really satisfied with the course. It was flexible and allowed me to take courses that I thought would be of practical use in my daily teaching.

I took the coursework degree, but you can also do a thesis if you want.

Deakin is not cheap. But I like the courses that they offered and that is why I chose it.

I did mine part time over two years and would recommend it to you. Though I would say that you need to be active on the online discussions to really get a lot of the degree. I have two kids and was working full time so I didn't get a chance to take a more active part on the discusssion boards, and I regret that now.
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thorin



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
For $17000 I could spend a year abroad and pick up two or three more languages. I think that's a bit much.


You could also get your head out of all those damn books and get a BA before you start replying to graduate school topics. Wink
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just finishing my dissertation through the University of Birmingham, in England. The program has been excellent, though I can't compare it to others. Its divided into 6 modules, each containing 2 courses. Each module taking 4 months to complete.

Module 1- Language Teaching Methodology-Classroom research and research methods.
Module 2- Second language acquisition- Pedagogic grammar
Module 3- Lexis- Syllabus and Materials
Module 4- Classroom and spoken discourse- Written discourse
Module 5- ELT management- Sociolinguistics
Module 6- 2 optional courses

They send you the reading requirements for each course, and it is always fun every 4 months scouring the bookstores of Seoul like an Easter egg hunt trying to find them. Or you can just order them on-line. After 3 months of reading, you write a 4,000 word paper on one of the many topics provided pertaining to the two courses in that module. You do that times 6 and that's the coursework. Then the dissertation. Korea has a new administration center, at Kyungwon University, and they are the middle man with Birmingham. They also provide an in-country tutor, though I didn't use mine too much. It cost about 13.2 million won (2.2 million x 6 payments) which is reasonable, I think, though the price may have changed since I started. The diploma you receive is identical to those who do the work in class at Birmingham. I plan on being there in person to pick mine up this July!
They accept students twice a year, April and October.
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But remember... if Korea goes the route of Taiwan, you're screwed.

Taiwan will not recognize online degrees. And they check very hard, I hear.
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and I guess I should clarify-
The Birmingham course is not on-line.
It is a "Distance MA in TEFL/TESL"
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HapKi wrote:
I am just finishing my dissertation through the University of Birmingham, in England. The program has been excellent, though I can't compare it to others.

You maybe don't, but others do. That institution has a great reputation! As does the University of York, which also operates distance graduate programs (again: NOT online).
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riverboy



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Athabasca in Canada is considered to be a very good distance program.
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

riverboy wrote:
Athabasca in Canada is considered to be a very good distance program.

I'm sorry but, By whom?

My years in a Canadian graduate program, travelling to other universities for conferences, gave me the impression that academic work from Athabasca was usually a step lower than the regional or local institutions like Brandon University and the University College of the Cariboo.

It is recognized, and seen as legit, but as clearly third rate: Maybe because of a stigma against distance learning in general? I don't know, because ten years ago Athabasca was the only university in Canada with a reputation for that sort of thing (that I can recall).

I know the reputable University of Calgary has a distance program for a Master's of Education (M.Ed.), which ESL teachers could take if they have the grades (A- I believe) and recommendations (from past professors).

In general, you can trust any graduate distance program that only admits a limited number of applicants, requires at least a B+ level undergrad degree (no equivalency granted for experience), requires a thesis/dissertation be done and has PhD's as your tutors (not grad students). In fact, only reputable institutions meet those requirements. (These are sufficient conditions, not necessary conditions, of quality.)
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You could also get your head out of all those damn books and get a BA before you start replying to graduate school topics.


Yeah, but...

or maybe you have a point there. Confused
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