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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| now, if she didn't like the attention (as some babies are shy) that would be different; but ours eats it up like candy! |
Our daughter does, too. That's what I'm worried about. I don't want her to get too much of an ego at such a young age -- but most of all I don't want her thought of as an object for amusement.
Sparkles*_* |
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Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: over here
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| Ody wrote: |
| now, if she didn't like the attention (as some babies are shy) that would be different; but ours eats it up like candy! |
Our daughter does, too. That's what I'm worried about. I don't want her to get too much of an ego at such a young age -- but most of all I don't want her thought of as an object for amusement.
Sparkles*_* |
hmm. except if the adoring eyes are those of talent scouts?
| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| I should note that a few weeks ago, visiting MBC's studios, I had no problem when a quite fetching talent began fawning over the little one. I'm such a hypocrite. |
anyhow, our son has always received similar attention and he's turning out to be pretty well grounded. so much hinges on how we parents spin (bring perspective to) things. |
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The Lemon

Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| I was pretty appalled to see how they kept my sister in law soooo hot (overheated room, fully clothed, and then a nice down duvet on top of her...), the baby was red because it was so hot, sister in law not allowed to eat/drink anything cold and I don't think she has been allowed to bathe/shower since the birth... |
I'm sure this "boiled lobster" practice does more harm than help, though I know it's tradition, and speaking out against it runs me the risk of being called the ethnocentric, arrogant foreigner. It can't be good for Mom to be sweating from the heat for days and nights while suffering from the exhaustion of childbirth. Nor can it be good for mom and baby to be in an overly-hot room, which is inherently more friendly to bacteria and other critters.
Two days after the birth of our daughter, I opened the hospital window to let in some of the beautiful 23c fall air. I was promptly scolded by my mother-in-law, and the attending nurses. Interestingly, the doctor also held the opinion that the practice had no benefit, but this modern medical opinion was unable to cut through blindly-accepted tradition. See: Fan Death.
Anyway, we came up with an effective solution to our daughter being treated weirdly in public because of her mixed ethnicity. We fled the country. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| I was pretty appalled to see how they kept my sister in law soooo hot (overheated room, fully clothed, and then a nice down duvet on top of her...), the baby was red because it was so hot, sister in law not allowed to eat/drink anything cold and I don't think she has been allowed to bathe/shower since the birth... |
I'm sure this "boiled lobster" practice does more harm than help, though I know it's tradition, and speaking out against it runs me the risk of being called the ethnocentric, arrogant foreigner. It can't be good for Mom to be sweating from the heat for days and nights while suffering from the exhaustion of childbirth. Nor can it be good for mom and baby to be in an overly-hot room, which is inherently more friendly to bacteria and other critters.
Two days after the birth of our daughter, I opened the hospital window to let in some of the beautiful 23c fall air. I was promptly scolded by my mother-in-law, and the attending nurses. Interestingly, the doctor also held the opinion that the practice had no benefit, but this modern medical opinion was unable to cut through blindly-accepted tradition. See: Fan Death.
Anyway, we came up with an effective solution to our daughter being treated weirdly in public because of her mixed ethnicity. We fled the country. |
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steroidmaximus

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: GangWon-Do
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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I too earned scorn when I dared to open the windows at the hospital. Brought in documentation to show that fresh air was actually important. Didn't work.
Our daughter gets the treatment all the time. One of our neighbours has taken a particular shine to her, and has even made a website for her I don't mind her hanging out with her all the time, since it gives my wife and I some time but this does seem a little over the top.
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Lucky for me my mother in law lives in Seoul (we are in Daejeon) and I specifically instructed my husband no to let his mother know when I went into labour and while I was staying at the hospital because I knew how hot it would be and I would die if I couldn't have the windows opened. As I went to a small private clinic, I was the only person having a baby there, so when it got too unbearably hot, I opened the window and asked the nurse to turn the heat off. They didn't mind that because they knew I would throw a tantrum - hey I just had a baby, let me have what I want! LOL.
I also keep my home fairly cool - around 17'C because I am frightened of SIDS. When my mother in law eventually came for a visit, she complained that our home was too cold and we had to turn the heat up. My husband, bless him, is pretty good at standing up for himself and us and told his mother that no, we like it like this and this is how we want it. My baby doesn't complain about being cold, so I am happy with the way things are.
I really would love to see what your kids look like!!
Steroid, your daughter is absolutely adorable!!!! |
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canadian_in_korea
Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with you tzechuk... I'm going home soon so it doesn't really matter...but I told my husband that I would never give birth to our baby in Korea. If they cooped me up in a room with the heat on, windows closed and covered in a blanket....they would think satan himself....herself in this case....had been unleashed upon them... I don't do heat well at all. I also keep my house at around 17C...I find it the most comfortable and if you get chilly just throw on a sweater. The other thing is seaweed soup for a couple of weeks....good lord. When I had my daughter I was in the hospital for 4 days and they make sure you eat a balanced diet....when I found out about this seaweed soup thing...I said to my husband.....hmmm..okay, so your body need glucose to carry out all metabolic processes including healing....sooooo then I can eat chocolate for three weeks...make sense? hahaha... I know you need extra iron but jeez...my doctor had me take iron supplements for a week...I was fine. I have to hand it to all of you ladies who have your babies here....you are braver than I am... |
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Khunopie

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: Fucking, Austria (pronounced "Fooking")
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh my God! Are you finally marrying the the Korean thug that killed your dog? Or did you shackle a new one? |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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I too earned scorn when I dared to open the windows at the hospital. Brought in documentation to show that fresh air was actually important. Didn't work.
Our daughter gets the treatment all the time. One of our neighbours has taken a particular shine to her, and has even made a website for her I don't mind her hanging out with her all the time, since it gives my wife and I some time but this does seem a little over the top. Some great pics though http://yjfruit.com/baby/ |
that site is slightly creepy, but your daughter is beautiful |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| steroidmaximus wrote: |
I too earned scorn when I dared to open the windows at the hospital. Brought in documentation to show that fresh air was actually important. Didn't work.
Our daughter gets the treatment all the time. One of our neighbours has taken a particular shine to her, and has even made a website for her I don't mind her hanging out with her all the time, since it gives my wife and I some time but this does seem a little over the top. Some great pics though http://yjfruit.com/baby/ |
that site is slightly creepy, but your daughter is beautiful |
Indeed. Your daughter is beautiful. I'm curious. Is she becoming bi-lingual? Do you speak English at home? |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Was that word relevant to your post? |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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They're learning, albeit slowly. I had two ajumas coo over my toddler in the store yesterday, and one leaned over to touch her, and her friend grabbed her arm. The woman was like, 'why'? and her friend explained quickly, "Foreigners don't like people to touch their babies without asking first."
Assa! I've finally trained some of them! |
Usually, it's older people who try to pinch the cheek of my son. Younger people want to take pictures or shake his little hand. When he was under a year old, there were always some university women that wanted to take pictures with him wherever we went. He was like a little rock star. He still loves the attention. He'll do the cutest smile he knows when someone coos over him, but now he'll briskly slaps their hands away the moment they try to pinch his cheek.
By the way, Tzechuk and Steroidmaximus, you might want to send pictures to a baby magazine. Your daughters have great smiles. We did so thinking it would be a nice souvenir if they put one with the other reader-submitted pictures. They called us back to take pictures with their photographer. After the magazine came out, we were contacted by talent agencies. Our son's been in a few TV and print ads since then. He just loves the attention (what baby wouldn't like having 4 or 5 people making funny faces to make him laugh?), and the pay is pretty good. He now has a bigger college fund than I did when I entered university. |
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steroidmaximus

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: GangWon-Do
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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She is a cutie, ain't she?
Hopefully number 2 on the way will be as cute
She is pretty bilingual, although her sentences are more Korean. My excuse is that I'm at work all day and don't get to hang out as much as I'd like. My wife insists on teaching her more Korean since she'll speed ahead in English when we move to Canada. It is funny hearing her speak with opa from down the hall: awesome Konglish.
She's been in five magazines and a kid's clothing commercial so far. Any info you could pass along about agencies and what not would be appreciated Hollywood. |
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yomuthabyotch

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Hell, Korea
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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I just smile on proudly... I mean, people like my baby enough to express joy. I usually wipe her cheeks with a hankie afterwards though.. just in case...  |
Sounds like you know the appropriate way to deal with them Koreans touching your baby! Until I read this post, I didn't have a clue that white people had such issues about other people showing minor physical affection towards their children. I would think that telling someone, manjijimaseyo is pretty damn rude, but then, I'm not a parent, so what do I know, right?
Your kid's cheeks are ripe for the pinching, tzechuk! I'll be sure to sanitize my hands first though!  |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| I would think that telling someone, manjijimaseyo is pretty damn rude, but then, I'm not a parent, so what do I know, right? |
Ruder than touching a small child as though it's one's god-given right? I realize the difference in culture, but that doesn't mean I am comfortable with it; so I tell them to please not touch her, which, as her father, I have every right to. I could tell them to f-off. A lot of the time they'd rightly deserve it.
Sparkles*_* |
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