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Bozo Yoroshiku
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Location: Outside ???'s house with a pair of binoculars
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 Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: doing the bolt...... |
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| The evil penguin wrote: |
| I have been seriously thinking about doing a midnight run. I don't see that I have a choice. The school here really sucks and the on-going disputes over pay and conditions etc really make it impossible to work here. |
If you plan on coming back to work for another institute, then the MNR is a bad idea. If the boss reports you as a MNR'er, you get a 5-year do-not-return stamp in your passport.
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Bozo Yoroshiku
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Location: Outside ???'s house with a pair of binoculars
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| kiwioutofthenest wrote: |
| just do privates for 3 months in Seoul, then from my understanding you get your letter regaurdless. I also think that your E2 will still be valid, obviously not for tax purposes and with a different school but i've heard it is still valid at the airports etc so yoou get 1 months u won't have to leave every three months. Better yet get fired then you get a months severence. |
Wow so much bad info, so little time....
Private lessons are illegal in any and all situations. Immediate deportation if caught. No, you don't get a LoR regardless of anything. If the boss refuses, then he refuses and you can't do anything about it. He is not REQUIRED to give you a LoR.
If the boss cancels your E2 sponsorship, you still need a LoR to acquire a new visa unless the old one expires. I know it makes no logical sense, but Immigration requires a LoR (for most cases) if you leave in the middle of a contract. If he cancels sponsorship, you are considered to have overstayed your visa, so yes, you have to leave.
Severence is only required if you fulfill a full-year contract. If you leave or are fired mid-contract, the boss is in no way required to pro-rate the severence.
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Bozo Yoroshiku
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: hmm |
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| ulsanchris wrote: |
| give him your one months notice. |
Careful... you said this guy is bad enough that you want to do a MNR. If he's that bad, giving him his 30 days notice will only give him the chance to steal your last paycheck from you. And he will steal it: he'll make up deductions (recruiter fees, plane tickets, back taxes, whatever) and just take them out of your pay, leaving you with nothing. It's a well-known tactic by the unscrupulous, and encouraged by the lawyers during Hogwon Owners Association meetings.
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Bozo Yoroshiku
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Location: Outside ???'s house with a pair of binoculars
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Um |
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| Anda wrote: |
| You have two weeks in which to leave Korea if you walk out on a contract provided the time is left on your contract after that you are fineable by the day. |
Fineable by the day no longer. Last May, I was 10 days over my last visa (mistake with my boss giving me my renewal papers, so not my mistake), and I paid only 100,000. The Imm Office has a large poster on the wall outlining the amount of your fine: the first month is a flat 100,000; not 100,000 per day as it used to be.
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Bozo Yoroshiku
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: doing the bolt...... |
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| Drakoi wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
So did you stick it out?  |
A year and a half later? are you trying to ressurect dead threads for a reason? |
Damn... I didn't even see the date of the original post.
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The evil penguin
Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Jeez.... where was this thread found???? Thought i'd lost it along with my tellytubbies t-shirt and well loved smurfette figurine......
Ahhhhh...... better set the (historical)story straight. I WAS at a bad school and desparatly wanted out. Then i started dating my lovely korean co-teacher and needed to stay in korea.
One day went to school to find that it no longer existed and money owing to me. But i had a lovely korean co-teacher (and still had my (not as yet as well-loved) smurfette figurine.)
Stepped into anopther job and then girlfriend was told by father that he didn't want hairy grandchildren so she had to leave me.
No worries. to cut the story short, i finshed and extended and fineshed a new contract and am now back in aussie studying how to be a proper teacher....
I am still missing my tellytubby t-shirt and smurfette figurine. I would really like to see my ol' girlfriend some time again. Maybe she has them.. |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| Bozo Yoroshiku wrote: |
If the boss cancels your E2 sponsorship, you still need a LoR to acquire a new visa unless the old one expires. I know it makes no logical sense, but Immigration requires a LoR (for most cases) if you leave in the middle of a contract. If he cancels sponsorship, you are considered to have overstayed your visa, so yes, you have to leave.
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That's not entirely true. It depends more on the immigration officer you deal with. My last boss fired me after telling me he could no longer afford to pay me so we went to immigration and canceled my e-2. The immi officer said that an LOR was not needed.
Immi in Seoul said, "you need an LOR" to my new employer. I said, "Incheon immi said I didn't." They then changed their story on the LOR.
Again, it depends more on who you are dealing with than on whether your old hagwon boss gives you an LOR or not.
That said, it's a good idea to get one just in-case you get a stubborn immi officer.
Cheers
PS. I was wondering the same about all of the comments after this thread was first posted sooooo long ago.  |
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hari seldon
Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon
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Bozo Yoroshiku
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| The evil penguin wrote: |
| Jeez.... where was this thread found???? |
(SHRUG) I just jumped into the middle of it without actually seeing the original date. Glad most of the stuff worked out for you.
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PolyChronic Time Girl
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: Korea Exited
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| Bozo Yoroshiku wrote: |
If the boss cancels your E2 sponsorship, you still need a LoR to acquire a new visa unless the old one expires. I know it makes no logical sense, but Immigration requires a LoR (for most cases) if you leave in the middle of a contract. If he cancels sponsorship, you are considered to have overstayed your visa, so yes, you have to leave.
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That's not entirely true. It depends more on the immigration officer you deal with. My last boss fired me after telling me he could no longer afford to pay me so we went to immigration and canceled my e-2. The immi officer said that an LOR was not needed.
Immi in Seoul said, "you need an LOR" to my new employer. I said, "Incheon immi said I didn't." They then changed their story on the LOR.
Again, it depends more on who you are dealing with than on whether your old hagwon boss gives you an LOR or not.
That said, it's a good idea to get one just in-case you get a stubborn immi officer.
Cheers
PS. I was wondering the same about all of the comments after this thread was first posted sooooo long ago. |
If your boss fired you, you don't need a letter of release because he/she voided your contract. However, if YOU voluntarily resign, then you need a LOR to get another job because you are now the breacher of the contract. It's probably better just to get fired...visa should be cancelled immediately. But if you resign, it is a friggin pain in the a** as you need your boss to cancel your visa (and this means making an uncomfortable trip with him down to immigration) and handing you a LOR |
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Bozo Yoroshiku
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| PolyChronic Time Girl wrote: |
| If your boss fired you, you don't need a letter of release because he/she voided your contract. However, if YOU voluntarily resign, then you need a LOR to get another job because you are now the breacher of the contract. |
The guy over at efl-law would probably argue the point.
--Boz |
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bibimbap
Joined: 14 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:59 am Post subject: |
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just leave the country for the weekend, drop off your alien card at immi on the way out and get another job when you get back on your tourist visa.
tried and true.
btw, hilarious how this post was ressurected after 2 years of dormancy. |
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Bozo Yoroshiku
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| bibimbap wrote: |
| btw, hilarious how this post was ressurected after 2 years of dormancy. |
Damn you, Tiger Beer! Damn you to hell!!
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manlyboy
Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| If the boss refuses, then he refuses and you can't do anything about it. He is not REQUIRED to give you a LoR. |
I keep hearing people disagree over this. Has anyone got a link to put the argument to rest? |
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Bozo Yoroshiku
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| If the boss refuses, then he refuses and you can't do anything about it. He is not REQUIRED to give you a LoR. |
I keep hearing people disagree over this. Has anyone got a link to put the argument to rest? |
I got it straight from the horse's mouth (over at efl-law). He lunches regularly with Korean judges, lawyers, and people in Immigration, so I'm likely to put more credence into what he says is (un)acceptable and (il)legal.
--Boz |
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