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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
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| Swiss James wrote: |
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I too earned scorn when I dared to open the windows at the hospital. Brought in documentation to show that fresh air was actually important. Didn't work.
Our daughter gets the treatment all the time. One of our neighbours has taken a particular shine to her, and has even made a website for her  I don't mind her hanging out with her all the time, since it gives my wife and I some time  but this does seem a little over the top. Some great pics though http://yjfruit.com/baby/ |
that site is slightly creepy, but your daughter is beautiful |
The site goes beyond creepy;it is really sickly. It reeks of shallowness. |
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yomuthabyotch
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Hell, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:16 am Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
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| I would think that telling someone, manjijimaseyo is pretty damn rude, but then, I'm not a parent, so what do I know, right? |
Ruder than touching a small child as though it's one's god-given right? I realize the difference in culture, but that doesn't mean I am comfortable with it; so I tell them to please not touch her, which, as her father, I have every right to. I could tell them to f-off. A lot of the time they'd rightly deserve it.
Sparkles*_* |
This can't be a cultural thing--I've seen old white ladies physically fawning over white babies w/out the parents freaking out. Is it just the way that Koreans touch?? Help me understand here.... |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:28 am Post subject: |
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Koreans are WAY too touchy feely with foreign strangers ( maybe they're like this with other Koreans and I just haven't noticed)
I've had my hair stroked, an attempt to tug my skirt over my knees, and various gentle smacks on sunburned arms- all from fully grown Korean women that I didn't know. ( and those were just the ones that freaked me out enough to remember) After a while it gets wearing y'know? |
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canadian_in_korea
Joined: 20 Jun 2004
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:06 am Post subject: |
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I would have to agree with peppermint. I have told my husband...#1 rule in Canada....don't touch anyone. Of course a handshake is fine, but "touching" someone can very easily be misconstrued. That most likely is a culture thing. When you have a new baby and everyone wants to touch them....it seems bad enough for a mother that people are touching their hands and they put their hands in their mouth....when people are touching their face it sometimes makes a mom very uncomfortable. I also have seen "white" ladies cooing over babies and I have seen the mother ask them to please not touch the baby...so perhaps it is an individual thing. As far as I know a baby's immune system isn't all that weak....but still ....for a new mom....its better to be safe than sorry....besides how do I know if that person washed their hands. I know some people who will ask you to wash your hands before you touch the baby...and go figure the person gets offended...I don't think its unreasonable especially if you are in a public place and have just handled money....the germs on there....yuck... |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| yomuthabyotch wrote: |
| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| yomuthabyotch wrote: |
| I would think that telling someone, manjijimaseyo is pretty damn rude, but then, I'm not a parent, so what do I know, right? |
Ruder than touching a small child as though it's one's god-given right? I realize the difference in culture, but that doesn't mean I am comfortable with it; so I tell them to please not touch her, which, as her father, I have every right to. I could tell them to f-off. A lot of the time they'd rightly deserve it.
Sparkles*_* |
This can't be a cultural thing--I've seen old white ladies physically fawning over white babies w/out the parents freaking out. Is it just the way that Koreans touch?? Help me understand here.... |
For my part I've never seen any old white ladies touch children who aren't their grandchildren -- except maybe for bag ladies.
I asked my wife if anyone tried touching our daughter when they visited Canada for a month last year. Except of course for family members and friends of the family, the only time she was touched by strangers, according to my wife, was when she attended Korean church service.
I don't think that strangers touching random babies is solely a Korean cultural trait, but, again, that doesn't make me any less apprehensive toward allowing strangers to do so.
Sparkles*_* |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
I've had my hair stroked, an attempt to tug my skirt over my knees, and various gentle smacks on sunburned arms- all from fully grown Korean women that I didn't know. ( and those were just the ones that freaked me out enough to remember) After a while it gets wearing y'know? |
The female Korean teachers at the hagwon I worked at my first year used to poke the female foreign teachers in their t*ts like it was nothing at all. They were enamored with their "glamor".
I'm sure that if the Korean teachers were poking each others boobies it would have been a little bit more understandable (and a lot more erotic -- ed), but that wasn't the case. I admired the female foreign teachers restraint. If anyone ever tried grabbing on my bozack or patting my loot bag...cultural differences be damned.
Sparkles*_* |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| Swiss James wrote: |
| steroidmaximus wrote: |
I too earned scorn when I dared to open the windows at the hospital. Brought in documentation to show that fresh air was actually important. Didn't work.
Our daughter gets the treatment all the time. One of our neighbours has taken a particular shine to her, and has even made a website for her I don't mind her hanging out with her all the time, since it gives my wife and I some time but this does seem a little over the top. Some great pics though http://yjfruit.com/baby/ |
that site is slightly creepy, but your daughter is beautiful |
The site goes beyond creepy;it is really sickly. It reeks of shallowness. |
Deja Vu.
PS - God hates ugly. Gwangjuboy, you're going to hell.
Sparkles*_* |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| yomuthabyotch wrote: |
I would think that telling someone, manjijimaseyo is pretty damn rude, but then, I'm not a parent, so what do I know, right?
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"agi manjijimandwaeyo" is perhaps a slightly gentler way to say it, if it matters. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| Corporal wrote: |
| yomuthabyotch wrote: |
I would think that telling someone, manjijimaseyo is pretty damn rude, but then, I'm not a parent, so what do I know, right?
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"agi manjijimandwaeyo" is perhaps a slightly gentler way to say it, if it matters. |
Try, "�Ʊ�� �ΰ��ؼ� ������������." (Because the baby is sensitive please don't touch him/her.)
Or, "�Ʊ�� ��������������."( Please don't disturb the baby.)
And after one or the other follow with,
"�������ֿ� �� �����մϴ�." (thank you for understanding.)
Problem solved me thinks. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| Swiss James wrote: |
| steroidmaximus wrote: |
I too earned scorn when I dared to open the windows at the hospital. Brought in documentation to show that fresh air was actually important. Didn't work.
Our daughter gets the treatment all the time. One of our neighbours has taken a particular shine to her, and has even made a website for her I don't mind her hanging out with her all the time, since it gives my wife and I some time but this does seem a little over the top. Some great pics though http://yjfruit.com/baby/ |
that site is slightly creepy, but your daughter is beautiful |
The site goes beyond creepy;it is really sickly. It reeks of shallowness. |
Deja Vu.
PS - God hates ugly. Gwangjuboy, you're going to hell.
Sparkles*_* |
Irrespective of the fact that the baby is pretty the site is very shallow. It's a sickly site, and I have no inhibitions about saying so. Insecurity usually leads to shrine-esque sites such as that. |
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yomuthabyotch
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Hell, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:44 am Post subject: |
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To all those who've responded: I see.... I didn't grow up in Korea, so I don't know all these idiosyncracies about Korean Koreans. Guess I'm used to being around Koreans who abide by the 'keep your hands to yourself' mindset of Westerners.
Come to think of it, I'M not even touchy-feely, nor do I like physical contact from strangers (excluding handshakes). I just got defensive thinking this was another post to bash Koreans--sorry!  |
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canadian_in_korea
Joined: 20 Jun 2004
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| yomuthabyotch wrote: |
To all those who've responded: I see.... I didn't grow up in Korea, so I don't know all these idiosyncracies about Korean Koreans. Guess I'm used to being around Koreans who abide by the 'keep your hands to yourself' mindset of Westerners.
Come to think of it, I'M not even touchy-feely, nor do I like physical contact from strangers (excluding handshakes). I just got defensive thinking this was another post to bash Koreans--sorry! |
Don't worry too much about it.....you are right ....if you have been around people who aren't "touchy" you might find it a bit unsettling when you come to korea. I've been touched by old people...ladies holding on to my hand....patting my arm or leg...but there is no harm intended... ...and it isn't a "creepy" thing either...if it was i wouldn't hesitate letting it be known that it was inappropriate ( no matter what country i am in..). I do think when it comes to babies..(when my daighter was a baby) I didn't hesitate to let people know what i didn't want them to do...no matter what their nationality....so don't think of it as any kind of "bashing"...think of it as "paranoid parent syndrome"....which almost all parents are guilty of...myself included.....and my daughter is almost 15 years old... |
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