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[Medic]

If Korea allowed immigrants in the DDD jobs would cease to exist, because the new workers would have the right to demand better working conditions and better paye. Maybe that's the tip of an iceberg of a bigger issue here.

Kim Dae Jung did suggest allowing Koreans of any nationality the right to live in Korea, but was forced to take it back because of a conflict it might cause with other countries immigration policies

Some Korean women have married immigrant workers who were not ethnic Koreans, and they are lobbying strongly for recognition of and equal treatment of the children

[Gwangjuboy]

[Yaya]

[tommynomad]

[Yaya]

Read this:

Joseph Perkins
THE SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE

August 29, 2003

Federico de Jesus owes Victor David Hanson an apology. De Jesus, a staffer for House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, falsely accused Hanson, the distinguished author of the just-published book "Mexifornia," of racism and xenophobia at a recent Capitol Hill briefing.

During his introduction, Hanson, a scholar of ancient Rome and Greece, was aptly described as "a classicist." De Jesus somehow interpreted that to mean that the author had a white "classist" bias against immigrants.

Pelosi's aide, who somehow earned a diploma without being able to make a distinction between a classicist and a classist, got ugly with Hanson and stormed out of the briefing in protest.

His hysterics reveal what kind of not-so-beautiful minds the House's top Democrat has shaping her views on issues.

That troubles because there hardly is a more urgent issue facing America than immigration, particularly illegal immigration from Mexico. And Pelosi, the San Francisco Democrat, ought to know that better than most of her colleagues on the Hill. That's because California is the state of choice for an estimated 40 percent of the nation's legal and illegal immigrants, a disproportionate number of whom hail from south of the border.

The nation's most populous state has reached the tipping point with Mexican immigration. Every year, it adds not only 100,000 legal Mexican immigrants to its population, but also, it is estimated, just as many illegal Mexican immigrants.

Meanwhile, the quality of life further diminishes for the once-Golden State's native-born population.

"Massive illegal immigration from Mexico to California, coupled with a loss of confidence in the old melting pot model of transforming newcomers into Americans, is changing the very nature of the state," Hanson writes, in "Mexifornia."

Indeed, while Mexican immigrants come to America no more or less poor, no more or less uneducated than previous waves of immigrants, they are far more resistant to assimilating American culture.

Hanson notes that, of the millions of Mexican immigrants legally admitted to this country since 1982, only 20 percent had bothered to become citizens by 1997.

That resistance to fully assimilating into American society, the de-emphasis of "American" in Mexican-American, has impeded the Mexican immigrant population's upward mobility in California.

And that is borne out by data compiled by the Center for Immigration Studies, the Washington-based public policy group headed by immigration expert Mark Krikorian.

Some 65 percent of Mexican immigrants in California are high school dropouts, according to the center, compared to only 7 percent of the native-born population. Some 41 percent of Mexican immigrant households are on the public welfare rolls, compared to 14 percent of natives.

And the socio-economic status of Mexican immigrants barely improves over time.

In fact, nearly 55 percent of Mexican immigrants are living in or near poverty after residing here in this country more than 20 years. Some 45 percent are without health care after 20 years and 37 percent are still relying on welfare.

The reality is that second and third generation Mexican-Americans are barely better off than their forebears who immigrated to this country.

So why does America continue to allow the yearly influx of hundreds of thousands of Mexican immigrants, not just legal, but also illegal? Because there are interests on both the right and left that favor this nation's de facto open borders policy.

Conservative corporations, contractors and agribusiness demand cheap labor from Mexico, according to Hanson, no matter the social consequences. Meanwhile, so-called "progressive" academics, journalists, government bureaucrats and La Raza advocates see illegal immigrants as a vast new political constituency for those peddling the notion that victimhood, not citizenship, is the key to advancement.

The American public sees things different from both ideological camps.

Two-thirds believe the United States should set the goal of completely halting illegal immigration, according a Roper-ASW poll this past March. And nearly half say legal immigration levels should be decreased, according to a Gallup poll last month.

It's not that two-thirds of Americans are racists, or that half are xenophobic. It's just that they recognize that this nation, which admits more immigrants each year than any other, can no longer afford to be so overly magnanimous.

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Furthermore...

"The idea that Mexican immigration is vital to the U.S. economy is simply false," Camarota (director of the Center for Immigration Studies) said.

While Mexican immigrants pay one-third the taxes of native Californians on average, they also consume roughly three times more welfare, Camarota said.

The CIS data showed that 41.5 percent of Mexican immigrants used "major welfare programs" like Medicaid and food stamps, while those same welfare programs were used by only 14.2 percent of native Californians.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200308/NAT20030820a.html

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And try this one for size:

France is probably the worst affected of all western nations by immigration, since it is on the brink of losing its European identity to the insistent Muslims increasing in numbers within French borders. As they grow in population, they come to believe they can impose the will of Islam on the French people, who seem rather unconcerned with the transformation.

http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-text/france-immigration.html

[Medic]

Aren't the muslims in France former french colonials anyway. They are their, because they have French passports. They aint exactly immigrants. The dumbass french brought all that on themselves, because of the way they treated their former colonials anyway.

[Gwangjuboy]

[katieinseoul]

u guys are all right. swiss james ,rapier and gwangju boy. so glad that u guys have one realistic opinions.

I have to leave now and one thing I learned from this site though just now,watch what u say and they will bite you words after words

regarding korea tv show , yes I do believe that victims are international couples yes I do believe that victims are korean girls since they have to go through all that discrimation worse than before.

being international couples in korea wasn't easy. and I hated that when I was in korea.

regarding what I said Americans after bush administration ,yes I do believe that anti americanisam got worse after that since America has been one of those leading countries or even top leading countries

regarding what I said u may be racist to gwangju boy,u know u can guess that easily what u said up there all the haterism regarding immigration policy and just look at what u said on the board again. and I completely agree koreans have tendency saying things like cannot handle critisism

hmm rapier.. u seemed like have one of those expeirence before in korea getting ripped off well

regarding korean immigration policy u guys are saying korea has the worst policy helping refugees . well, korea isn't all that rich considering poor human rights such as very poor welfare system ,low pay check ( as a matter of fact u guys are getting paid really well) no days off from their everyday work. really western countries have great welfare system compare to korea

some of my best friends are Americans ,Kiwis ,British ..all those people I met in korea. I must say though people are people and I shouldn't have ever mentioned anything regarding racism .I was being sorta patriotic since I left home. and I must say racism is everywhere but shouldn't dwindle on it so i am leaving this site as my last visit for this matter.

u guys all have a great time in korea and hope for the best. koreans are not so bad. as a matter of fact they are nicer to foreigners than to locals sometimes. I always got that feeling for sure when I worked at hagwon.

chow

[dogbert]

Do any other Californians here see the irony in a Korean-American complaining about Mexican immigrants?

[Gwangjuboy]

[itaewonguy]

there are racist idiots everywhere..
and not only racist! just plain IDIOTS!

yes some kiwis can be real jerk offs!
I met one the other night who I just wanted to smash his face in!
people in general can be just A holes!

[Yaya]

[Gwangjuboy]

[Pyongshin Sangja]

[Blind Willie]