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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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 Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject: Immigration Verification of Degree |
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| Does anyone know exactly how immigration verifies your degree and transcripts? |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Why do you ask?  |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Just curious.
(no, I don't have a degree from the University of Khao San) |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| JacktheCat wrote: |
Just curious.
(no, I don't have a degree from the University of Khao San) |
Me too.  Maybe the EFL-Law forum might know? |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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They use a once over with their eyeballs. Nothing's changed. There were a few offices that apparently made an attempt to go beyond that, in the brief fallout of the whole situation, but there was no organized front and approach on how to do it with the staffing issues that they have, so it naturally fizzled out.
Their kneejerk reaction of busting some illegals to make the press in order to placate the outspoken types, and to give off the image of accountability, succeeded in accomplishing their desired effect, just like so many crackdowns tend to go in the various aspects of Korean life.
As much as the govt despises them, they do really know how to work the media.
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poker player
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: On the river
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Immigration Verification of Degree |
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| JacktheCat wrote: |
| Does anyone know exactly how immigration verifies your degree and transcripts? |
I recently had to get mine inspected before I left Vancouver. I had to take them to a notary public who did certified copies, then to the Korean consulate who stamped the certified copies but still wanted to see the originals. I guess that intermediate step of a notary gives them some comfort of authenticity.
They were accepted by the visa office in Korea and never had to show originals.
Total cost about $30 per degree. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:56 am Post subject: |
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anyone been to immigration?
you think they have someone there who can speak English who is gonna call up uni's all day around the world and ask questions..
yeah the best I ever heard buddy say was.. passport! give me!
ok you go now get stamp . ok alien card . ok you go now.
thats it!!
hahahaha |
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JAMZ
Joined: 18 May 2004
Location: Ori Station, Bundang
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| from what i know they dont actually verify your info ocne you're here... all that is supposed to be verified by your employer and the korean consulate from you point of departure |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| I told them what it takes to check a degree - diplomas have nothing to do with it. You cannot notarize a diploma, regardless of what you hear. these people are fat headed. |
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poker player
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| dulouz wrote: |
| I told them what it takes to check a degree - diplomas have nothing to do with it. You cannot notarize a diploma, regardless of what you hear. these people are fat headed. |
Check my post a few up. The notary who did mine says she does it all the time. But then what does she know? |
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dulouz
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:47 am Post subject: |
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Notary....
Notaries arent an official "stamp". In the USA a notary public is someone that has gained the states (state like in Delaware, Wisconsin etc...) trust enough for the state to issue them a seal and subsequent official blessing by the state.
A stamp is issued for a signature that has been witnessed by the notary. This usually takes place for deeds and the like and when both parties want to do a good job whenever but none the less, a notary must witness the actual signing. Thats the whole essence of notary.
My diploma has four signatures on it. High and mighty people as well; chancellor, chairman of board of directors, dean and someone else like that. All high ranking executives.
In order to get your diploma notarized, all of these people must sign the document while being witnessed by a notary public. None of these people are going to give you the time of day to make a hawkwan happy. Never-ever. Maybe if you were dying they would help but for working here, never.
I dont know what those stamps are supposed to do other than make Koreans feel good but in the USA, they are legally worthless and laughable. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| dulouz wrote: |
Notary....
Notaries arent an official "stamp". In the USA a notary public is someone that has gained the states (state like in Delaware, Wisconsin etc...) trust enough for the state to issue them a seal and subsequent official blessing by the state.
A stamp is issued for a signature that has been witnessed by the notary. This usually takes place for deeds and the like and when both parties want to do a good job whenever but none the less, a notary must witness the actual signing. Thats the whole essence of notary.
My diploma has four signatures on it. High and mighty people as well; chancellor, chairman of board of directors, dean and someone else like that. All high ranking executives.
In order to get your diploma notarized, all of these people must sign the document while being witnessed by a notary public. None of these people are going to give you the time of day to make a hawkwan happy. Never-ever. Maybe if you were dying they would help but for working here, never.
I dont know what those stamps are supposed to do other than make Koreans feel good but in the USA, they are legally worthless and laughable. |
Not entirely true. Usually, a notary must indicate in their copy, which signature is being notarized, in the event that two or more signatures are to be notarized. Otherwise, it will be presumed that without this, the notarization is for all signatures on the document.
However, there are some states that have tricky notarization standards. For example, in Oregon. What they are technically supposed to do is have the Registrar of your school certify the authenticity, while in the presence of the notary, who then notarizes it before both of you.
And for what it's worth, it's not just Korea that wants notarized copies of degrees, US Immigration asks for Canadian or Mexican businessman applying for nonimmigrant visa status under the NAFTA agreement, to provide original or notarized degrees, which must be directly related to what their declared vocation will be in the US. |
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Rather_Dashing
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Immigration Verification of Degree |
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| JacktheCat wrote: |
| Does anyone know exactly how immigration verifies your degree and transcripts? |
They are now asking for sealed transcripts from your university (and registrar's letters if necessary) for most people who apply for an E2 for the first time. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:40 am Post subject: Re: Immigration Verification of Degree |
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| Rather_Dashing wrote: |
| JacktheCat wrote: |
| Does anyone know exactly how immigration verifies your degree and transcripts? |
They are now asking for sealed transcripts from your university (and registrar's letters if necessary) for most people who apply for an E2 for the first time. |
Which office is saying this? I know Mokdong and some of the southern provincial ones aren't. |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Immigration Verification of Degree |
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| Rather_Dashing wrote: |
| JacktheCat wrote: |
| Does anyone know exactly how immigration verifies your degree and transcripts? |
They are now asking for sealed transcripts from your university (and registrar's letters if necessary) for most people who apply for an E2 for the first time. |
Nope, they've always taken my unsealed transcripts no problem.
From the responses, I guess there is no real "verification" of degrees or transcripts at immigration, other than to check that the names match up. |
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