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Korea or Corea?
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Which do you prefer to use?
Korea
88%
 88%  [ 48 ]
Corea
11%
 11%  [ 6 ]
Total Votes : 54

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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which do you prefer to use?

Korea 88% [ 38 ]
Corea 11% [ 5 ]

Total Votes : 43

5 people spell Korea with a "C"?
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thebum wrote:
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1614 R. C*OCKS Let. 25 Nov. in Diary (1883) II. 270 He was prevented by a Corean Noble-man. 1727 J. G. SCHEUCHZER tr. K��mpfer's Hist. Japan I. 63 The Coreans had been subdued. Ibid. 76 Encompass'd by the Corean sea. 1813 Q. Rev. Oct. 256 Classes and Families of Languages... Tartarian... Corean. 1822 F. SHOBERL tr. Titsingh's Illustr. Japan 323 A Corean Fisherman and his Wife. 1885 E. W. HAMILTON Diary 11 Apr. (1972) II. 834 The idea was broached in the Cabinet of endeavouring to make arrangements with the Chinese and Japanese Governments for our occupying Port Hamilton in Korean territory in the event of war with Russia. 1899 A. H. KEANE Man Past & Present viii. 307 An adaptation of the Chinese symbols to the phonetic expression of the Korean syllables. 1921 [see ANNAMITE a. and n.]. 1966 Listener 24 Mar. 423/2 The Korean people..are genuine Tartars. Ibid., Korea proves that it is possible for a poor Asian country to hope for both bread and freedom. The Koreans value that freedom. 1967 D. S. PARLETT Short Dict. Lang. 70 Agglutinative structure, like Korean, unlike Chinese. 1972 Korea Times 19 Nov. 1/6 Written tests in English, Korean and general knowledge will be held.


It was originally Corea(n), as you can see from these quotes taken from the OED's entry for "Korean". A possiblity I would like to suggest (keep in mind that this is speculation, so don't flame me too much) is that because Japan was open to countries like the USA before Corea Wink we ended up adopting Japan's spelling of it rather than ���ѹα�'s spelling.


That's intertesting.

I most recently heard that it was Japan who just prior to the 1936 Olympics in Berlin insisted the letter change all because of who which country would then come out into the stadium first.

I'm assuming they thereby insisted KOREA take on the "K" & drop the "C" so that "J"-apan would come first.

Go figure.


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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither: Gorea - like Gimpo.
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:

That's intertesting.

I most recently heard that it was Japan who just prior to the 1936 Olympics in Berlin insisted the letter change all because of who which country would then come out into the stadium first.

I'm assuming they thereby insisted KOREA take on the "K" & drop the "C" so that "J"-apan would come first.

Go figure.


Except that as a colony of Japan at the time, Korea did not field an independent team.
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thorin



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KKKorea
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diver



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korrhea
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seoulkitchen



Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Location: Hub of Asia, my ass!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should be Gorea.
Since Korea comes from the Koryo dynasty and the whacky government here decided to spell stuff that starts with a 'K' with a 'G' instead, ie Goryo dynasty....hence 'Gorea'.

Although, I actually prefer it with a 'K' just to annoy certain types of people.....

(How about CKorea?)
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is an interesting thread Rolling Eyes

Honestly it AMAZES ME that some people have the audacity they do. For a foreiner to come to Korea/Corea/Gorea and say "this is how it should be spelt" simply baffles me.

IF the people and democratically elected rulers of this nation choose to name it any name I would respect their wishes.

I've heard people in this thread mention something to the effect that they (the koreans) can call it whatever they want in hangul but English "is our language" and we'll say what goes (or something to that effect). Honestly, I know the majority here ARE English teachers, but come on, do you seriously believe you possess the rights to the English language?

Many countries have changed their name, often on the tail end of a major political change. If for some reason this country finds itself in a situation where a name change is a priority, I wish them luck. They deserve at least to choose their own name.
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shakuhachi



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
this is an interesting thread Rolling Eyes

Honestly it AMAZES ME that some people have the audacity they do. For a foreiner to come to Korea/Corea/Gorea and say "this is how it should be spelt" simply baffles me.


Maybe 'Captain Kyopo' would be a more appropriate username for you.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shakuhachi wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
this is an interesting thread Rolling Eyes

Honestly it AMAZES ME that some people have the audacity they do. For a foreiner to come to Korea/Corea/Gorea and say "this is how it should be spelt" simply baffles me.


Maybe 'Captain Kyopo' would be a more appropriate username for you.


Maybe, but then I couldn't get that cool 'CC' logo I was thinkin' of Razz
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the_beaver



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
IF the people and democratically elected rulers of this nation choose to name it any name I would respect their wishes.


My ass.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea, let me try one more time to make this clear.

No one is telling Koreans what to call their country or how to spell it. The name of this place is Daehan Mingook. That is the official name. That is the name they chose for it and so far have expressed no wish to change it. If they want to change it in the future, they can do so.

The problem is that they are trying to tell foreigners how to spell the name foreigners have used for the place for the last 7 (?) hundred years. It is not the real name of the country.

It would be very much like Germans saying that we cannot call them Germans since they live in Deustchland, not Germany or Allemagne (or whatever it is the French call it).

There is a certain silliness to this whole issue and it has to do with Koreans wanting to spell it with a 'c' so they can come before Japan in the alphabet. Koreans have a lot to be proud of....but this issue is not one of them.
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think Flubberlubberland is the obvious choice. Mind you, after checking obesity rates in Canada and the United States maybe we should adopt those names. Razz
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jaebea



Joined: 21 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Ya-ta has hit it on the head.

We say "Spanish" when we refer to the language of Spain, whereas in Spanish itself, they prefer to call their language "Espanol" (with the funky inflections). They can call it whatever they wish to call it, but in the end, English will always recognise "Spanish" as the language of Spain.

To insist on changing something, for a pure spelling based reason, supported by petty nationalist sentiment, is rather poor.

The "letter change to dictate order" argument is pretty weak. Guess those "Ostralia" jokes might have become a reality of the Japanese made it down this far.. :)

jae.
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seoulkitchen



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_beaver wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
IF the people and democratically elected rulers of this nation choose to name it any name I would respect their wishes.


My ass.


I wonder what a beaver's ass looks like?


Do you think Airline pilots got lost when they changed the spellings of Kimpo and Inchon?

Speaking of spelling, the thing that gets my ass riled up is when they spell Shinchon without the 'h': Sinchon....
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