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This is weird... they want to register me with the ministry?
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Metsuke



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:47 am    Post subject: This is weird... they want to register me with the ministry? Reply with quote

"I can't remember if I already asked but make sure to pack the real copy of your degree. We need to take it to the education ministry to register you as a teacher."

Hey all... this is a small piece of the email my hiring director sent to me. But I'm a bit confused cause I'm working at a Hagwon, not in the public school system. I've already sent a notarized and certified copy of my degree to my school, and immigration has accepted it. Why would they need my actual degree to? They have not stipulated whether they want to hold on to it. If that is the case... well then I might have a problem with that.

Can anyone shed some more light on the statement I quoted above? Is this common practice now in Korea, to have teachers in Hagwons registered with the education ministry? Is this registeration with the ministry akin to a sub form of certification as an actual teacher in Korea?

Thanks in advance... Smile
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's not certification. It is not going to the Min., it is going to Immi.

Immi. now needs the original. It's the "law."
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I was working at a hogwon in my first year I was registered with the department of education. My director took the notarized copy of my degree and transcripts to them.
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Ajarn Miguk



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: TDY As Assigned

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:56 pm    Post subject: Retain? Reply with quote

I'm curious if anyone knows whether or not the "ministry" plans on retaining the original diploma? If so, this might present a problem for more than one teacher in the future.
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Metsuke



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've emailed the hiring director back. I'm fine doing this... but like I said before... if anyone tries telling me that that they will keep possession of my degree I'm going to have a problem with that.

I just get the feeling I am having to jump through hoops here. I've already gone to my lawyer and gotten my degree notarized, than went to the Korean consulate and had them stamp the "notarized copy". Then I had to courier all those documents via fed ex out of my pocket, plus my signed contracts to the school for them to take to immigration. To top it all off... and I still feel ok about this... but I was the one who had to take initiative to put the contracts into duplicate form and actually dictate to the hiring director in print and email that I expected for them to send me a copy of my contracts for my records. In conjunction with the mail package I sent, I scanned all the documents into a PDF file for my records... and also emailed it to the hiring director so he would have a copy electronically as well.

Now after all that, I'm being told I have to bring my actual degree to. And pay for my ticket which will be reimbursed upon my arrival. To top it off, I'm dealing with a Canadian guy... he��s not Korean. So I guess I don't know what to make of that.

I still think everything is cool... but I'm getting a little pissed off having to deal with all this BS. I mean I have a University degree... its totally legit . I've provided everything they need and more... and now it sounds like some idiots in Korea at immigration are making rules up as they go to solve the illegal teacher problem. Which if fine by me... but man its starting to become a pain in the ass a bit.

I'm done venting for now.... Smile
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they wont keep your degree.
as i said on your other thread, tell them you simply don't have the cash on hand for the air.
you are coming earlier for them, have them get the ticket for you.

all the crap you are going thru now is good prep for your year here. Twisted Evil
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
when I was working at a hogwon in my first year I was registered with the department of education. My director took the notarized copy of my degree and transcripts to them.


Maybe because you have an actual teaching degree, you can be listed as an actual full-fledged "teacher" here? Did you get some kind of certification as well?
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope you cant be registered as an actual teacher in Korea unless you pass the government exam, regardless of what degree you have.

Any crap they give you about handing over your original diploma is exactly that...crap.

By all means bring it with you but dont let it out of your hands...where goest thou's degree so goest thou. Immigration offices can, and have made certified copies so if they tell you they need the original it is yet another lie.

Chances are some bedwetter told his subordinates that he wants only original degrees.
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prairieboy



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I believe the education ministry/board requires your original degree so they can copy it and check it out. A notarized copy is probably good enough but with the fallout from spectrumgate and the SBS documentary, they have probably become extra picky.

It is also necessary for the school to function legally. If you are not registered with the board of education then the school/hagwon cannot operate legally.

I've been with 3 different hagwons in the 3 and a half years I've been in Korea and each one required that I present my original degree to the board of education in order to register me. I don't have a B.Ed. either.

I'm sure this has been covered in other threads before.

Cheers
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been in 2 hogwans and a public school in three years and I have yet had to 'give' my original to anyone. Once at immigration they told me that they had to hold on to my degree for a week or so while they filed my paperwork and I told them no way. They photoc