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Permanent Residency~~ any info???

 
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lastat06513



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject: Permanent Residency~~ any info??? Reply with quote

Me and my friend were talking about this yesterday and we heard a variety of different answers on trying to get permanent residency here in Korea (yet keeping your nationality).
He said for Canadians, it is 2 years of uninterrupted time in-country under a certain visa status.
I was just wondering if anyone had or knew how to get it?
Especially in regards to Americans.


Inquiring minds want to know...... Question
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard after 5 years. But immigration did not know about this. I also heard it was 12 years and I heard it was 8 years.

And I read 3 years ago that they creating a "denizen" status available after 5 years.

I am in my sixth year and might test that at next renewal in November 2006.

Truth is, so sorry, I know nuffink.

And that may be as much as anyone else. Wink
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komtengi



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at immigration the other day... and inquired about it... must have been here for 5 years to apply, and then they will consider whether or not to give it to you.
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Mashimaro



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

komtengi wrote:
I was at immigration the other day... and inquired about it... must have been here for 5 years to apply, and then they will consider whether or not to give it to you.

consider it based on what exactly?
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kangnamdragon



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

komtengi wrote:
I was at immigration the other day... and inquired about it... must have been here for 5 years to apply, and then they will consider whether or not to give it to you.


Is that 5 years total or continuous?
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
I heard after 5 years. But immigration did not know about this. I also heard it was 12 years and I heard it was 8 years.

And I read 3 years ago that they creating a "denizen" status available after 5 years.

I am in my sixth year and might test that at next renewal in November 2006.

Truth is, so sorry, I know nuffink.

And that may be as much as anyone else. Wink


You are married to a Korean woman, no?

If you have F-2, it's 5 years after you got married to become a PR.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
Wangja wrote:
I heard after 5 years. But immigration did not know about this. I also heard it was 12 years and I heard it was 8 years.

And I read 3 years ago that they creating a "denizen" status available after 5 years.

I am in my sixth year and might test that at next renewal in November 2006.

Truth is, so sorry, I know nuffink.

And that may be as much as anyone else. Wink


You are married to a Korean woman, no?

If you have F-2, it's 5 years after you got married to become a PR.


But I have a D8 in my own right so do not need to go the F route: that is valid till dec 06, then I will see if I can get a PR, but in truth am happy with the D8 for now.
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komtengi



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mashimaro wrote:
komtengi wrote:
I was at immigration the other day... and inquired about it... must have been here for 5 years to apply, and then they will consider whether or not to give it to you.

consider it based on what exactly?


whether or not they think you are a suitable candidate to become a citizen... its up to their discretion
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Mashimaro



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

komtengi wrote:
Mashimaro wrote:
komtengi wrote:
I was at immigration the other day... and inquired about it... must have been here for 5 years to apply, and then they will consider whether or not to give it to you.

consider it based on what exactly?


whether or not they think you are a suitable candidate to become a citizen... its up to their discretion


It would be interesting to know how many permanent residents there are in korea. Very, very few I'd imagine. On the other hand, I know of two koreans in my relatively small circle of friends who are permanent residents of Australia
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Holyjoe



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know from the cases of a few foreign soccer players that you can take Korean citizenship if you've been living in Korea for five years and can pass the language, culture and history tests required to get the citizenship. Players from Tajikistan, Russia and Croatia have done this in the past to become Korean citizens.

However the OP doesn't want to take citizenship, but instead wants a kind of permanent residency without having to relinquish his current nationality so that rules the above out.

The EFL law forum gives information about getting an F2 visa based on long-term residence (ie without marrying a Korean national) - apparently you can apply for that after seven years' residency in Korea but you need to be of some special 'use' to Korea and EFL law reckon it would be pretty hard to qualify for.
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
But I have a D8 in my own right so do not need to go the F route: that is valid till dec 06, then I will see if I can get a PR, but in truth am happy with the D8 for now.


This is what I do not understand. Why bother getting a working visa when a spouse visa can let you work, providing you get *permission to engage in activities not stated in sojorn (or some such words)*?

I came here with an E-7. Got married. Got F-2. Didn't bother with E-7. At Incheon Airport, I go to the Korean resident queue at immigration, rather than *waygoog* (they don't like it but they let me). So much faster.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A D8 is a foreign investor's visa and provides a work and residence permit. It gives me great flexibility in working patterns. In my case I can have contracts with one or more companies, in Korea or outside. There are too certain tax-breaks. I have had a D8 since my arrival over 5 years ago. Were I to abandon it now it would reduce my opportunities not increase them.

At last renewla, it was renewd for 2 years and at the next it is likely to be good for 3 years (currently the maximum permitted).
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see.. I know next to nothing about the D visas Razz ... it makes sense to do what you do.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A new law about this went into effect in about 2002. If I remember correctly, someone wanting permanent residency needed to have lived here for 7 years and have W20 million in the bank.

I met those requirements so I took a professional Korean translator (knowing things would not be simple) with me to immigration. I was right about it not being simple. According to the immigration officer, this law was passed for ethnic Koreans born abroad. It was not possible for non-ethnic Koreans to get permanent residency, according to that official.

I think we all know how local officials interpret laws as they see fit, and whether or not they are correct is anyone's guess.
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kangnamdragon



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would not be that difficult for an ethnic Korean to get residency. Is there a copy of that law in Korean and English?
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