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kangnam mafioso
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Teheranno
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| Soon, my friend, you will be calling the local sauna your humble home. your backyard will be the pc bang. sorry. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just because the hogwan/school pays for our apartments does not mean that they have the right to evict us without due notice. That is our home and we are protected under Korean law in this area. If his boss tries to throw him out have him arrested for assault, if he enters the apartment without your permission have him arrested for break and enter, if he removes anything from your apartment have him arrested for theft.
I say move out on your own time but dont let your ex-boss give you the bums rush. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Corporal wrote: |
FOREIGNERS EXPERIENCING TROUBLES IN SOUTH KOREA
Many foreigners have difficulty living overseas, due to poor communications with their employers, blah blah blah
www.somerandomlink.com/fgiosuiowbwbsnews/23089854.html
(Sorry, channeling RR there for a second before he could do it himself.) |
Newbies please note: After a few years of cultural acclimatization, you too could argue your point just as intelligently, sensitively and logically as Corporal. |
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iiicalypso
Joined: 13 Aug 2003
Location: is everything
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:52 am Post subject: |
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First of all, thank you to everyone for your support. Last night was very stressful, and the advice everyone gave was comforting.
The update: so far, nothing has happened, which is good. No midnight police raids, no Waco style sieges. I am about 3/4 packed up, and I plan to move my things to a storage unit tomorrow. I am so paranoid that I had my GF's mother house-sit for me today while I was at the interview. I don't know what this says for my sanity, but I am lucky to have such wonderful people around me.
My plan is to stay here until I get my pay and letter of release. Once my things are safe, I will feel a lot better. I hope that my boss is as reluctant to go to war over this as I am... I just want to get out of this situation and get on with my life.
And a special shout out to Eamo-- a standup guy. Thanks!  |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| Just don't return your keys until the end of the month. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Good to hear
Your boss most likely did the typical ajoshi dumbass move, threatening and giving ultimatums without the actual brass monkeys to back them up.
Take your time moving out of YOUR apartment.
best wishes
sorry Eamo |
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Konundrum
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Boston
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Glad to hear it seems to have worked out thus far.
Solidarity, brother. |
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iiicalypso
Joined: 13 Aug 2003
Location: is everything
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:43 am Post subject: |
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So, to those of you who have a morbid interest in my plight (and who doesn't take a littel comfort in the trials of others?), here is the latest.
I returned home today to find a note on my door"reminding" me that "school regulations" require teachers to leave their apartments 2 days after they cease teaching and telling me I "must be out of the apartment by Saturday, March 19 at 11am".
I am perfectly happy to do this ( I am arranging storage for my things, and have plenty of cash for the time being) but they have not yet paid me, cancelled my visa or given me a release letter.
Why do you advise me to do. since I see the apartment as my only leverage in getting things right, especially the LOR. I don't want to enflame the situation, but I also don't want to surrender whatever ground I have right now to get the letter (and, less importantly, the money).
Advice?
By the way, this letter was the first thing they have spelled my name correctly on since I began working there  |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| Have you talked to someone at EFL law or the labor board yet? I suggestyou do both- ASAP. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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I would send them a letter saying that you will not consider employment terminated until you are paid and given a letter of release  |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| I would send them a letter saying that you will not consider employment terminated until you are paid and given a letter of release |
Ditto on this. Also, why not sick your girlfriend's mother on him? Have her go there at a really busy time and have a nice little talk with him so everyone in the building can hear.
Have her say nice and loud "You invite a foreigner to come teach here in Korea then you kick him out of his home with no place to go. How does this reflect on Korea as a country" That kind of shit. You never know, it might work coming from her (from you he would tell you just to piss off).
Another thought, why not talk to the police before he does with the girlfriend's mother helping you out? Tell them that you have not been technically fired as you are on a contract with the school (no legal documents have been given to you terminating the contract right?) Thus, he has no right to kick you out. If you have the run of the mill contract that everyone gets, then they have to give you notice and warnings to fire you. I honestly believe the coppers will be on YOUR side with this one. Don't go to the dinky dong police box, go to the GU police station. Bigger fish are there.
Remember, a school's owner signs a piece of paper with immigration that states they will be responsible for your well being while in the ROK Your wife does this too if you are on an F-2 |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
| Corporal wrote: |
FOREIGNERS EXPERIENCING TROUBLES IN SOUTH KOREA
Many foreigners have difficulty living overseas, due to poor communications with their employers, blah blah blah
www.somerandomlink.com/fgiosuiowbwbsnews/23089854.html
(Sorry, channeling RR there for a second before he could do it himself.) |
Newbies please note: After a few years of cultural acclimatization, you too could argue your point just as intelligently, sensitively and logically as Corporal. |
She was poking fun at RR not arguing a point. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| iiicalypso wrote: |
So, to those of you who have a morbid interest in my plight (and who doesn't take a littel comfort in the trials of others?), here is the latest.
I returned home today to find a note on my door"reminding" me that "school regulations" require teachers to leave their apartments 2 days after they cease teaching and telling me I "must be out of the apartment by Saturday, March 19 at 11am".
I am perfectly happy to do this ( I am arranging storage for my things, and have plenty of cash for the time being) but they have not yet paid me, cancelled my visa or given me a release letter.
Why do you advise me to do. since I see the apartment as my only leverage in getting things right, especially the LOR. I don't want to enflame the situation, but I also don't want to surrender whatever ground I have right now to get the letter (and, less importantly, the money).
Advice?
By the way, this letter was the first thing they have spelled my name correctly on since I began working there |
Are they paying into pension, or medical insurance? I'd check into that first. If not, then you have some power to bargin with, regardless of the apartment. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Exactly right: get your pay and release letter before shifting...make sure that you communicate this clearly, threaten the "or else" scenario, in a definite and clear way. Have your back up prepared: have your phone calls made, your interpreter ready, and legal backing well defined. Do this and you'll get your essentials no problem.
Then, get the hell out and move on. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
| Corporal wrote: |
FOREIGNERS EXPERIENCING TROUBLES IN SOUTH KOREA
Many foreigners have difficulty living overseas, due to poor communications with their employers, blah blah blah
www.somerandomlink.com/fgiosuiowbwbsnews/23089854.html
(Sorry, channeling RR there for a second before he could do it himself.) |
Newbies please note: After a few years of cultural acclimatization, you too could argue your point just as intelligently, sensitively and logically as Corporal. |
She was poking fun at RR not arguing a point. |
Of course she was. Not only was she making fun of RR, she was also (inexplicably) making fun of the OP.
And that's a mark of maturity because ...? |
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