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| Have you personally experienced mostly negative attention from random Koreans or mostly positive? (Random Koreans meaning Koreans met in the street, the mall, the coffee shop, not Koreans met in the hakwon, or other institutions used to foreigners.) |
| Yes, mostly negative. |
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| No, mostly positive. |
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67% |
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jinglejangle

Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Location: Far far far away.
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:12 am Post subject: Have you experienced much racism from Koreans? |
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I've had mostly positive experiences, especially from women, even discounting those who are clearly hitting me up for free englishy. But there have been quite a few negative ones as well.
I'm also especially curious about non caucasians' experiences, to include Asians, after their non korean identity was discovered.
Also curious about abuse directed at Korean wives of foreigners, and at mixed korean/westerner kids. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:16 am Post subject: |
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A few years ago I was with a group of Koreans and we wanted to go into a club that was where the Limelight is now located. They would not let me in. Blew my mind that I was in the foreigner area and was not allowed in a club there.
Otherwise, nothing else. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:25 am Post subject: |
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I get a fair bit of passive aggro from the guys, especially if I'm with a Korean woman. So far it hasn't amounted to more than some aggressive stares,comments in Korean to another Korean, or attempts to draw me into some xenophobic conversation.
I get some attention from whackos too...anybody generally disgruntled with life I guess.
No attacks or direct intimidation though, maybe the occasional "Miguk go home" thing shouted from some distant person 100yards away.. |
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jinglejangle

Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Location: Far far far away.
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:35 am Post subject: |
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A few years ago I was with a group of Koreans and we wanted to go into a club that was where the Limelight is now located. They would not let me in. Blew my mind that I was in the foreigner area and was not allowed in a club there.
Otherwise, nothing else. |
I've been refused entry to a couple of smaller places in Itaewon.
Mostly run into that in ShinChon though. |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Aside from the constant whispering when I'm with my gf, I get treated like gold. |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| I've recieved a lot of positive attention here, random compliments, discounts or extra bonuses and that kind of thing are pretty common. The thing is, the negative attention I've gotten while rare, has been quite intense at times. I realize they were the acts of a handful of freaks, and try not to let that color my view of the country and my treatment overall. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:24 am Post subject: |
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I get the range of it. Sometimes I'm treated like a minor star. Other times (especially when I'm with a girl) I am soemtimes treated very rudely. I joined Itaewonguy and Kiwiboy for drinks in Hongdae once, and some young university k-guys continually tried to hit on the girls we were with. Itaewonguy heard much of what they said, which was basically a lot of questions for the girls like, "Why are you here with Western guys?" The guys just wouldn't go away, or take a hint to do so. The girls ignored them a lot.
As I've mentioned before, in three years here, I've been spit on twice, hit and pushed once, bumped hard another time, and one female friend I had lunch with was swung at by a crazy old schizo ajosshi as he swore at her for being with a foreigner. Other various cracks were made at me when I was with certain girls. I have learned that the cracks don't seem to happen if we are both dressed nicely. Odd, but true.
My current girlfriend and I don't seem to have too many troubles. She doesn't look like the typical "Itaewon type" and often doesn't like to wear make-up, so we don't get any flak. Sometimes I think it's because she always has this puppy-dog look in her eyes that says she's head-over-heels in love. We walk all over with arms around each other, or her head firmly buried into my side. I also think it has a lot to do with the clothing she wears, and that she looks more Japanese than Korean. She doesn't wear much crazy stuff yet, although I'm working on that. She is especially gifted with a fabulous pair of legs and adorable feet, and should show them off a bit (her female co-worker was enamoured with them, and took several pics for her cyworld page -- odd). My girl has always been the shy conservative type, but she's finding her confidence and is having fun with it.
Courtesy of me, she bought a pair of 11cm Nine-West heels, and she chipped in on some knee-high hose, and a mini-skirt for spring. I'm sure we'll get some angry stares after she wears that.  |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:29 am Post subject: |
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If you are getting discriminated against just say this.
Cha-Byeol-hae-Yo?????? - basically means are you discrimating????
That should get their attention a little... |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| It's hard to explain, isn't it? Most of us may not get much direct racism or whatever similar crap day to day, but after a good while here, like a few years, things can weigh on you. There's just something that weighs on the psychology. And it can b | |