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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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 Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Purcell's stuff is usually written to make Korea sound like hell-on-earth for foreigners, for what purpose I'm not sure. A few years back he was posting stuff about how awful Itaewon is, and if I recall it basically came down to saying that there are sleazy bars with lots of drunks and hookers wallowing about. It's the kind of thing that would seem really down and dirty to someone who's never moved out of the suburbs, which I suspect is Purcell's target audience.
Now, as for this latest masterpiece:
Korean manufacturers complained when a British TV show criticized Korean cars? I fail to see anything sinister about this. The manufacturer's are responsible for maintaining a good rep for their products, so if the cars get criticized in the media, of course they're gonna want to repsond.
The Oprah controversy? Please. That lasted for about two days. I don't think I've heard or read a single thing about it since.
Some unnamed guy in some unnamed embassy doesn't like Korea? I'd imagine it's pretty easy to find disgruntled embassy employees in any country who don't like where they're stationed.
And so on and so forth. Other posters have mentioned his attempt to make the anti-ESL thing sould like an escalating issue. As for me, I do find it odd that the article makes no mention of the SBS program, which leads me to think that he wrote the thing shortly after the "Playboy" controversy broke and didn't bother revising it.
My theory: Purcell started out as a writer during the Ohno-World Cup-martyred-schoolgirls era, and figured he had stumbled upon a foreign correspondent's wet dream. Here indeed was the stuff of screaming headlines: RIOTS! FLAG-BURNING! SOLDIERS ASSAULTED!! PANIC IN THE STREETS!! Of course Korea eventually settled down, but that hasn't stopped our low-rent Edward R. Murrow from trying to relive what passed for his glory days. |
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darrin312
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Location: Kyopoville
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| canuckistan wrote: |
I remember some guy and his Korean Fight Club post on another website. He bragged about setting up/baiting random Korean guys and then beating them with his western "gang" 4-on-1 style by surprise.
Sound familiar? |
Link? |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| meh, i'm still planning on going back. |
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canuckistan
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Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| darrin312 wrote: |
| canuckistan wrote: |
I remember some guy and his Korean Fight Club post on another website. He bragged about setting up/baiting random Korean guys and then beating them with his western "gang" 4-on-1 style by surprise.
Sound familiar? |
Link? |
Sorry, no link, but it wasn't that long ago you (PK) wrote that on one of Big Bill's boards. Plenty of us around who remember that. Pretty sick really. And so isn't it ironic you're now posting a concerned-about-violence-towards-foreigners "article" here.
Maybe you should have followed the first rule of Fight Club  |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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What a nice little piece of crap.
It beats the SBS report hands down.
I bet that Purcell guy wrote it on his way home from Itaewon at 4AM. |
Are you nuts? Oh, no, wait... you are one of those nationalistic Koreans. That report is dead-on truth, and we all know it. The SBS report was hardly truthful. This is full of facts. How can you even compare them?
I'm also laughing at the apologists, at least two of which have posted recently above this post. |
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darrin312
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| canuckistan wrote: |
| Sorry, no link |
Hmmm, no link? So you could basically say whatever you want here, but cant back it up? How about you STFU then canuckgirl? 
Have a nice day! |
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canuckistan
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| darrin312 wrote: |
| canuckistan wrote: |
I remember some guy and his Korean Fight Club post on another website. He bragged about setting up/baiting random Korean guys and then beating them with his western "gang" 4-on-1 style by surprise.
Sound familiar? |
Link? |
Have I hit a nerve? Thank you for taking the time to respond to my initial post, which could have been directed at anyone in this thread hey. I knew YOU would jump on it though. |
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darrin312
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| canuckistan wrote: |
| darrin312 wrote: |
| canuckistan wrote: |
I remember some guy and his Korean Fight Club post on another website. He bragged about setting up/baiting random Korean guys and then beating them with his western "gang" 4-on-1 style by surprise.
Sound familiar? |
Link? |
Have I hit a nerve? Thank you for taking the time to respond to my initial post, which could have been directed at anyone in this thread hey. I knew YOU would jump on it though. |
I responded with a one word question "Link?" as I was a bit surprised that a mod here would be responding to the original post that way. I wanted others here to be able to read of this thing you supposedly were describing. Unfortunately, you could not produce the link, so I then pointed out that you could be claiming anything and there would be no way to verify it, which got me some more of the famous mod courtesy to the users here. Way to go! |
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indiercj
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yep. This thread is going down.
Now. Keep fishing. |
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Mashimaro
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Not hard to believe that many koreans would rip on foreigners. You only have to look at this thread to see how many people are ripping on Mr. Purcell. People like belitting others, it makes them feel better about their own insignificant lives I guess.
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I have to question the article because the writer said the won is weakening. That simply is not true, at least not as measured against the US dollar.
Secondly, he says some foreigners have already left. I would like something to back this up. No one ever seems to know how many foreigners are here and why they leave.
The article strikes me as a kind of wishful thinking. |
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shakuhachi
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| I have to question the article because the writer said the won is weakening. That simply is not true, at least not as measured against the US dollar. |
Actually the reference to 'weakened currency' refers to the US dollar.
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So what does this all mean for South Korea? The number of non-Asian visitors to South Korea is dropping. So too are the amount of businesses investing in South Korea.
That is as much due to the weakened currency as it is to South Korea��s less-than-welcoming reputation. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| #1 Some Koreans got angry because of what was posted on the ES forum which was despising words on Korea and especially the women. This is actually what caused all this little tumult. But the reporter completely ignored it. |
Compared to the der sturmer style attacks rampant on the naver site they were insignificant. On the SBS programme I never witnessed any such defence. Indeed, the programme relied heavily on a gyopo who told repeated lies about his job prospects in Korea.
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| #3 I don't buy Purcell's trick to relate everything to "anti-american" or "anti-western" attitude. His work seriously lacks investigation and factual data regarding the issues to back his own claim. What the hell some poeple criticizing TV shows has to do with xenophobia? |
The naver site (one of the most famous websites in Korea) played host to countless xenophobic rants.
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| Oh yeah? I lived in Europe. A lot of Europen countries have extreme-right-wing-anti-foreigner parties who do have a clear voice. I remember some people yelling at us on the subway, in the streets. Usually, most people just ignore the whole scene. |
In the UK the BNP doesn't have one seat in parliament, despite 600 being up for grabs.
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| Speaking of Daum, I checked their communities. I searched with "WaeGookIn". And guess what, from more than 500 communities searched only 7 were related to "anti foreign" theme. When sorted from the most membered, the most popular "anti illigal english teacher group"(http://cafe.daum.net/checkhimout) popped up at 140th! And rest assured my boy, it is literaly dead now. Most of the communities are about making foreign friends, learning English and giving some couseling and help to foreign 3d workers. Korean netizen being extremely anti foreign? Yeah right. |
Take your search to the naver site. You will find a plethora of attacks against foreigners proudly displayed under the naver logo. In the UK yahoo.co.uk would never allow such attacks against foreigners to take place under its brand's name. |
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JongnoGuru
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Secondly, he says some foreigners have already left. I would like something to back this up. No one ever seems to know how many foreigners are here and why they leave.
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Oh, the numbers will shock you, Ya-ta, simply shock you! Can't count all the farewell parties I've attended for ex-pats. Been to literally dozens. Been invited to nearly a hundred. Then again, this has been over the past 12 years. |
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ulsanchris
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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That report is dead-on truth, and we all know it. The SBS report was hardly truthful. This is full of facts. How can you even compare them?
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That report was not dead on true. He glossed over the provocative by some foriengers here. Koreans over reaction to the incident is quite stupid but more than mere flirtations were going on. His facts are generalizations with no data to back them up. I personally have never heard of anyone leaving Korea because of the ES incident. Except for maybe the illegals who were caught in the crackdown afterwards. |
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