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redbird



Joined: 07 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is that a router would be a good thing for Tzechuk if she wants to devote some time to understanding what routers do. The router would also allow her to share data between the two computers in her house.

I know you've had a recent bout with malware, but this seems like it's a little more complicated response than you really need-- unless you want to learn more about computers. There are a couple things you can do first that are a little simpler. The first is to make sure that the administrator log-in on your computer has a complex password. When I set up my Dad's computer, I made his usual surfing account a simple user account so he couldn't accidentally install something and he's been fine. You can also re-name your administrator account for some extra protection. Add on a typical anti-virus program like Norton and you'll probably be in good shape, although you should still periodically back up anything that's vital for you.

I don't want to make routers seem ultra-complicated, but they'll take a little Googling to understand.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:

What is a hardware firewall and a software firewall and can you recommend one for me to buy Very Happy


Most routers have a firewall. This would be considered a hardware firewall, as it's not a program per se, but a function of the router, as hypnotist broadly explained earlier. A software firewall is one that is installed in the computer, like Zonealarm.

The router (not to be confused with a hub, as many of those boys at Yongsan have done with me before) is the best solution; far superior to a software firewall.

Anyways, through this thread, it's links and ideas, I think you get a feel for what a router is. Essentially, it splits the incoming data line to 2 or more computers. They are inexpensive these days, easy to hook up and can protect your system well. I would advise to go with a good name, such as Linksys, just for a) ease of use and b) a heap of online information about them. Nothing worse than saving a few pennies buying some obscure model, only to find that if you have trouble, there is no online info/support about your hardware specifically.

Explore the Linksys site...there is a lot ofinfo on there about networking and their products. I think this would be a good wired solution for you.
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Pangit



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Location: Puet mo.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A router's not going to protect you from a virus. Not one that you're most likely to buy, anyway. They usually don't have built in virus scanning. A router is only good for sharing an internet connection or setting up a local area network so that you can share data with computers connected to the network. The most common extra that routers come with is the firewall. That might protect you from a trojan that you've unknowingly installed on your computer by opening up a questionable file. Either way, the router's still not going to stop you from opening up junk e-mails with viruses attached to them. Neither will the firewall. You have to keep yourself from doing that. Stop opening questionable files! Tell your mom to stop forwarding you junk! Well, I get most of my nasties from Mom - I don't rightly know about you. So, how did you get the virus?
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pangit wrote:
Tell your mom to stop forwarding you junk! Well, I get most of my nasties from Mom - I don't rightly know about you. So, how did you get the virus?


I have no idea.. my mum doesn't forward anything to me.. lol... I don't open anything that looks dodgy so I don't know how I got it Sad

I will just talk to my husband and ask him what to do.. he knows a lot about computer and stuff.. I just wanted to know what I am talking about before I go and present him with options. May be I will just have to let him deal with it. Argh, I hate being dependent (I have lived on my own in a cold boarding school since 12 and have learned to rely on myself.. Confused ).
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hypnotist wrote:
SuperHero wrote:
I saw a wireless router that will connect up to 5 (I think) computer for only 60,000 in the ���� building.


Do you remember where, and whether it was 802.11b or g?

I'm tempted to get one so I can use my laptop in bed. Ahem.



C'mon, man! Isn't your memory that good? hehehe
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hypnotist



Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Location: I wish I were a sock

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
hypnotist wrote:
SuperHero wrote:
I saw a wireless router that will connect up to 5 (I think) computer for only 60,000 in the ���� building.


Do you remember where, and whether it was 802.11b or g?

I'm tempted to get one so I can use my laptop in bed. Ahem.



C'mon, man! Isn't your memory that good? hehehe


I prefer to talk to people who don't just exist in my head Wink
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Giant



Joined: 14 May 2003
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@tzechuk

Demophpobe pretty much said it all. The router is what in laymans terms is know as an "IP Sharing" device. But it also acts as a hardware firewall. In the sense that there is software (BIOS) in the router that does what a software firewall does. By software firewall I mean one that you would install like ZoneAlarm.

Basically the most common type of consumer router has a "switch" built in. Not to be confused with a "hub".

Basically a switch and hub do the same thing but a switch is better since it allows direct traffic from sending port to destination port. A hub simply broadcasts to all connected ports and that slows down traffic.

Anyway, if you to Yongsan, or where ever, just ask for a IP sharing router with a firewall built in. You will find you can get one that has like 4 or 5 ports to connect up to 4 or 5 computers. I know in Korea the "Gateway" make is popular. But Linksys, Netgear, 3Com are all good too.

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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you you guys... most helpful.

{{{{{hugs}}}}}
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seoulstomper



Joined: 25 Nov 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Azureus/Torrent router problem Reply with quote

Can any of you techies help me?

I have just connected a (Taiwan-made) Netmate 4-port router to share a connection in my home. However now my torrents downloads are abysmally slow (20kB/s vs. 200kB/s pre-router), and sharing them is even slower on uploads. I have used the internal router configuration page to forward to applicable port (50000) that Azureus uses, but with no luck so far.

Has anyone else had a similar problem and managed to solve it? Since this is an obscure router there is not much help on the 'net. I would appreciate any suggestions, or if anyone with networking expertise lives near Haebang-chon in Seoul, I would get you drunk if you could come over and help set it up!
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hypnotist



Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Location: I wish I were a sock

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Azureus/Torrent router problem Reply with quote

What does https://www.grc.com/x/portprobe=50000 say?
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seoulstomper



Joined: 25 Nov 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Shields Up! Reply with quote

It says "STEALTH". I'm at my half-wit's end over here.
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: Shields Up! Reply with quote

seoulstomper wrote:
It says "STEALTH". I'm at my half-wit's end over here.


Stealth means that no one can see your IP from the router side as far as any one knows its a dead end.

Some times torrents will get slow if routers have antiflooding enabled. I suggest that you enable QOS. Quality of service or create rules that help torrents. Also different torrent prgs are crap, azerous is great because its Upnp it automatically creates all rules for you.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
Giant wrote:
Thats part of the answer, the other half is that routers nowadays also act as a firewall that block certain ports that are vulnarable. You need to configure the router to allow the ports you want.

Actually, usually a hardware firewall is better than a software one.


What is a hardware firewall and a software firewall and can you recommend one for me to buy Very Happy

Thanks.


A hardware firewall is built into a device like a router and cannot be hacked since it is physically worked into the device.

A software firewall is one like McAfee, Norton, AVG, etc. which you install onto your computer but, have to configure to give you proper protection.
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