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Metsuke



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: Emergency question... need quick feed back. Reply with quote

Ok... heres the situation.

I'm flying to Korea this Monday, and today I went to get my passport stamped with my work visa and all that stuff. Today is Thursday, and tommorow is good Friday so the consulate is closed on Friday through to Monday.

Essentially I phoned the Consulate in Toronto... asked them what I needed to do. They told me... I showed up. They didn't process my work visa. Its a much longer story... but essentially they messed me around pretty good and would not admit their mistake.

So now I got a one way ticket ready to go, non refundable... and I don't know what to do. Can I get through immigration with a one way ticket without having my work visa in order?

I mean everything is legit... I got a contract, I got confirmation and approval from immigration in Korea and all the paper work to back it up. I have my degree, my transcripts, everything... its all lined up.
I need answers... if I fly regardless will I get shipped back to Canada or what?

You have no idea how pissed I am at the Consulate in Toronto right now. They gave me misinformation twice and then screwed me over. Evil or Very Mad

Thanks so much for the help all... Smile

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No L



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phone the airline and try to change your ticket because you can fly to Korea on the one-way ticket, but then you'll have to leave to Japan to get your visa. Your boss won't likely be pleased at that; it'll cost him more money and time without a teacher.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you pay for the ticket? If not, you're not exactly at a loss even in the worst case scenario. I'd get in touch with your agent and boss, and not leave Canada until it's fixed. All parties involved will probably be very angry, but at the end of the day it's not you're duty to come over here with dodgy paperwork you have to scramble to fix.
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Metsuke



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have been trying to get ahold of my hiring contact at the school... no luck yet.

People being angry... I already knew that one. At this point I don't think anybody is more angry than me.

I'm the one who paid for the ticket... to get reimbursed upon my arrival.

Heres the problem... if I change my flight now it will cost me $400.

So maybe it might be better to cancel the ticket and reschedule the flight for next week... and then I can go back to the consulate and give them their 24 hours to stamp my passport. Would that be cheaper than an additonal visa run to Japan... I'm thinking it might be.

But... to get back to the original question... what happens if I fly on Monday with a one way ticket but no work visa stamp in my passport? What could I realisticly expect to happen if I do that?
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Metsuke wrote:

But... to get back to the original question... what happens if I fly on Monday with a one way ticket but no work visa stamp in my passport?


They will probably not let you on the flight if you have a one way ticket and no work visa.

Here are some bad secnarios if you do make it through.

Boss might not pay for your costs to go to japan which you have to do in order ot be legit..

Your new boss might be miffed that you didn't get this done. They may fire you for not doing this and then you're stuck here with no visa, no apartment and no money.

You start working before going to japan and get snapped by immigration (it happens) for working illegally. Again no job, a fine and you have to leave the country.

I suggest you get a hold of someone rather than hop on the plane. Better to be broke and stuck in Canada than broke and stuck in Korea.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Metsuke wrote:
Have been trying to get ahold of my hiring contact at the school... no luck yet.

People being angry... I already knew that one. At this point I don't think anybody is more angry than me.

I'm the one who paid for the ticket... to get reimbursed upon my arrival.

Heres the problem... if I change my flight now it will cost me $400.

So maybee it might be better to cancel the ticket and reschule the flight for next week... and then I can go back to the consulate and give them their 24 hours to stamp my passport.

But... to get back to the original question... what happens if I fly on Monday with a one way ticket but no work visa stamp in my passport?


I'm no expert on these things but...

$400 now will probably be better than paying just as much to make a visa run to Japan after you've started work. Watch you're boss say that you just used up all your year's holidays after you do it, too.

If you show up you can probably get through the airport easily. They seem to process people *in* with no problem. Tell them that you're going on to Japan after Korea and want to travel by ferry or something like that if a one-way ticket is a problem to them. After that, you're at the mercy of the system. Will you have to travel far to go to an immigration office? Will your boss send someone along to interpret? What if you're delayed in Japan? I'd take the $400 hit now.

A good reason never to pay for your own ticket, unfortunately. But who knows. Teaching in Korea is a crap shoot. You could get screwed a bit now by the consulate but end up with a wonderful job and place once you're here. Or... well, let's hope this is the worst of it.
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HamuHamu



Joined: 01 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said, the problem isn't getting IN to Korea, the problem is getting past the Air Canada ticketing window (assuming you're flying AC).

Should you get past Air Canada, you'll have to pay about $400 for your visa run to Japan, so for ease of worry, stress, etc at the check-in desk, you might want to postpone the flight, if possible. If you wait until check-in and find that they won't let you on the flight without proof of return travel, then it will be too late to change the date on your ticket.

Should you decide to try it anyway and book the visa-run flight as your proof of onward travel, you should know that the RT ticket from Seoul-Osaka, when booked in Canada runs between $700-900 dollars Cdn. (I know this because I had an almost identical situation just last week). When you book the visa run ticket here in Seoul you can get it for about 350,000 won. About half of the price.

You can try to contact a travel agent in Korea and have them book the flight for you, and email you the confirmation of (paid) reservation, that will be enough to get through Air Canada check-in, and it's cheaper than booking it from Canada. Then, you will still need to do that visa-run trip and most likely your boss will make you pay for it yourself, but double check with him.

Good luck - I know I had 3 sleepless nights last week worrying about the same thing..........
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RobotTeacher



Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: I'm a Seoul Man

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay...just did pretty much this. Ended up buying a one way out of Korea before Korean Air would let me recieve my ticket from the school.

OTOH, used my Mastercard and then refunded the thing when the bill came. NOTE: Korean Air wants at least a month for a refund.

No problems at Immigration, even though I clearly wrote "Profession -teacher" and "purpose for visit - Visit friends"

The address I gave was my hagwon. *chuckles*
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Metsuke



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok... heres the update.

Everything is cool now... and my hiring director is cool with everything as well. We have both decided that once I get to Korea we are going to pursue some type of action to expose what happened at the Korean Consulate in Toronto.

What I'm going to do is cancel my ticket, and post pone my flight. Next week I'm going to go back to the Consulate in Toronto and give them my package again, and allow them thier 24 to 48 hour processing time.

I figure its better, cheaper, and safer to take the hit on the ticket cancellation and get everythign done in Canada than risk flying down.

I just wanted to say thanks to all for posting helpful advice so quickly.

Its very much appreciated! Very Happy
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CustomX



Joined: 25 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why not just buy one of those ferry tickets to japan that leave from busan? arent those pretty cheap? that can be your exit ticket from the country and from what i've read should work with the airlines
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