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Parents' Burden: No School on Saturday
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:28 pm    Post subject: Parents' Burden: No School on Saturday Reply with quote

No School on Saturday for the First Time
A Heavier Burden for the Parents


Many parents are feeling the economical and psychological burden of suddenly having to deal with Saturday holidays. To begin with, working spouses who have no place to entrust their children on Saturdays have increased their concerns over this matter. According to the Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education, around 100,000 elementary school students, or 13 percent of a total of 730,000 students in Seoul elementary schools, are "home alone students" on Saturdays.

Working mother Lee Gyung-mi (44) plans to enroll her two daughters, who are second and sixth graders, in school programs. Lee said, "They need hands-on activities in order to be competitive in their studies from now on, but I am sorry for my daughters that I cannot let them engage in any activities on Saturdays like other parents do for their children."

There is a considerable financial burden in providing hands-on experiences or enjoying leisure activities with the children on Saturdays. Housewife Oh (41) expressed her concern, saying, "If I want to go on a trip with my children, I am faced with traffic fees, various entry fees and dining costs that are not a small amount.

Discontent is arising as well over the fact that there is no social infrastructure to cope with Saturday holidays. In Japan, for instance, elementary school students are given free admission into national art centers and museums on Saturdays, and they are also given a "weekend children's pass" on the Japan Rail, which entitles them to enjoy a discount for rides.
Donga.com (March 25, 2005)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2005032620748
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marlow



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the children's parents need more holiday time.
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, public school kids get saturdays off now? When did this happen?
*feels stupid*
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marlow,

Arbor, Constitution Days Face Exclusion From National Holidays
"In a policy adjustment meeting, chaired by Prime Minister Lee Hae-chan, participants decided to exclude the April 5 Arbor Day and the July 17 Constitution Day from state holidays," officials said.
Korea Times (March 2, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200503/kt2005030219413711990.htm

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I_Am_Wrong



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's one saturday at the end of every month...to help phase in the plan for no school saturdays. Really they should just teach their children to take care of themselves a bit more...I'm pretty sure a sixth grader should have no problem. Anyways, lots of professions will also have no saturdays and it shouldn't be much of a problem. There's always a way to deal with the problem. If some parents have to work Saturday and they're not comfortable leaving the kid alone then they can arrange for the kid to go to a friend's home where the parent is at home etc.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I_Am_Wrong wrote,
"Really they should just teach their children to take care of themselves a bit more...I'm pretty sure a sixth grader should have no problem."

Parents Pamper College-age Children
"Mom is my manager."

At the beginning of a school term, it is a common scene for parents, instead of the students themselves, to register for class. "Some parents even attended freshmen orientation to take a class," said Park, a professor at "Y" university. "After asking questions, they registered for their children and left."

Specialists have analyzed that Korean parents' love for their children and the current competitive trend, a success-oriented culture and the deepening unemployment problem is causing parents to pamper their children in college. Hwang Sang-min, a psychology professor at Yonsei University, said "even in college, Korean parents cannot separate their child from themselves."
by Yi-Young Cho and Soo-Jung Shin, Donga.com (May 05, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004050622478

Divorcing parents want to shed kids with spouse
As the divorce rate rises, more couples are trying to avoid custody of their children. Not only economic reasons but also future concerns such as the possibility of remarriage may make the children seem excess baggage.
by Jeon Jin-bae, JoongAng Ilbo (October 21, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200210/21/200210210030445169900090409041.html
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peemil



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Down at the GF's school, if there is a day off they panic. "What will we do without school?" Where I live there are lots of hills and tracks to have fun in, which is what a lot of us would've done when we were kids. But these kids. No way. They've got to have that order in their days. They've got to be studying something.

It's sad really. They just don't get a chance to do what they want or develop themselves as people. It's just school, hagwon, classes and even on the days off organised fun.
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chiaa



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If I want to go on a trip with my children, I am faced with traffic fees, various entry fees and dining costs that are not a small amount. "


Well not shit.
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fidel



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know what Chiaa was babbling about but I took exception to the same line

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There is a considerable financial burden in providing hands-on experiences or enjoying leisure activities with the children on Saturdays. Housewife Oh (41) expressed her concern, saying, "If I want to go on a trip with my children, I am faced with traffic fees, various entry fees and dining costs that are not a small amount.


If you consider 700 entry into a museum or park, 1000 won for highway fees, 3000 won for a cheap lunch exhorbitant you'd be lying. the housewife in question is just a lazy cow who does want to get off her thin ass and play with her children. Playing and spending time with children isn't a burden and many things are free.
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weatherman



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, 'family is so strong in Corea' crap just get funnier. I couldn't have dreamt a society so depended on 'schools' to raise their children. Rolling Eyes Crying or Very sad
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Bozo Yoroshiku



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Parents Pamper College-age Children
"Mom is my manager."[/b]
At the beginning of a school term, it is a common scene for parents, instead of the students themselves, to register for class. "Some parents even attended freshmen orientation to take a class," said Park, a professor at "Y" university. "After asking questions, they registered for their children and left."

This is not a trend only in Korea. I've seen several newspaper clippings in recent months about stuff like mothers who go to school everyday to eat lunch with their high school child (in the cafeteria!), a mother (who lives hours away from the university) calling the dean to have a burned out bulb in their child's dorm room changed, etc. And this was in the US.

And these are the kids who will be wiping my ass in the old age home? Thanks, but I'd rather lock myself in the garage with the car running.

--boz
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"If I want to go on a trip with my children, I am faced with traffic fees, various entry fees and dining costs that are not a small amount. "


Well... they could just go out for a picnic at a park nearby. They can make their OWN food, WALK to the park that is free and have a good time! My mum and dad always took me to parks for picnics... they didn't have to spend any money! Well.. in England I guess one has to think about petrol, since parks are not that close, but still... that's just a small amount of money. We got to stretch our legs, enjoy the fresh air and ate yummy sandwiches and fresh fruits.
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eamo



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do all the families in the west do? Their kids never went to school on Saturdays and it has always worked out fine.

Don't they have Saturday morning cartoons here?
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Kimchieluver



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure some hogkwan directors will offer to teach that Saturday or some like minded person will come out with some Saturday program for the kids for a small fee. The mothers won't complain then, it would just be a few extra bucks a month and they will think their child is developing all that much more.

Hmmm... we will have to wait and see.
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh my GOSH!?!

Do you mean I actually have to ASSOCIATE with my children!?!?

Oh, the horror!
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