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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NateTeaches wrote:
This thread blows goats. I want the last few minutes of my life back for reading it.

I mean that in a non-conformist type way. Neutral


Nonsense! You got a lead on an excellent movie, Whiskey Galore!
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: everyone's a hypocrite Reply with quote

I_Am_Wrong wrote:
well right now the big fad at my elem. school is yo-yos....

I love the people who complain about this stuff with elementary kids here without even realizing it's exactly the same in our countries all the way through til university.

I also love the people who complain about the children being spoiled without realizing than probably 90% of children in the U.S. are more spoiled.

I also love people who complain about conformity here without realizing how blatant the conformity is back home


Well said.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't complaining about anything. I was making an observation and asking a question.

I never even mentioned that they are spoiled. As for 90% of the kids in the US being spoiled, I might want to double check that figure. Where I come from there is plenty more diversity than any place, including Ittaweon, in Korea. Not just ethnic, but across the whole spectrum (work force, professions, etc.)

So you guys mustn't really love me. Awww my heart is broken. Sad
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimchieluver wrote:
I wasn't complaining about anything. I was making an observation and asking a question.

I never even mentioned that they are spoiled. As for 90% of the kids in the US being spoiled, I might want to double check that figure. Where I come from there is plenty more diversity than any place, including Ittaweon, in Korea. Not just ethnic, but across the whole spectrum (work force, professions, etc.)

So you guys mustn't really love me. Awww my heart is broken. Sad


Crying or Very sad

I feel....





shame. Embarassed
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coolsage



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the OP was observing that kids 'conform' anywhere, but that it doesn't end, here. Korean society tends to be a place without imagination. Indeed, 'Korean imagination' is an oxymoron. This is by no means exclusive to Korea (Japan is similar, but they're far more sanitary about it all). Innovators are thin on the ground in these parts. Imitators are everywhere. Blame it on the education system here, which is geared to produce drones, not people with ideas.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh! The conformity...... Reply with quote

Kimchieluver wrote:
Another example of Korean conformity, one which I want to bring to attention because it's developing in the early ages. Ever since I have been teaching here, when one child brings something they bought from the local stationery store, all the kids seem to jump on the band wagon.


I agree Koreans are monoculture but what you describe could be any grade school class in North America. All kids follow trends like crazy. I remember when everyone in grade 4 wanted to be the Fonz and we all had out Happy Days tshirts and lunch boxes.
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coolsage wrote:
Innovators are thin on the ground in these parts. Imitators are everywhere. Blame it on the education system here, which is geared to produce drones, not people with ideas.


One example: architect grads.
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funplanet



Joined: 20 Jun 2003
Location: The new Bucheon!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mean this as an insult but I believe most Koreans are honestly scared to death of non-conformity, of being "noticed" as someone different or doing something different that is outside the norm for Koreans..

there have been many times my Korean friends have said "I envy your ability to *insert something interesting or fun or dangerously crazy*

"I wish I could do that but Koreans just don't."

I think a lot of them have a sense of adventure inside wanting to break out (younger generation moreso) but are afraid to make the leap...

so I always cheer on the kids who dye their hair or have piercings, etc...at least they are trying
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