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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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I thought this to be the funniest part:
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| Dokdo is apparently part of Korea's territory |
You should show him that bit that has definately not - probably not - apparently - for sure, and all the words in between. See, apparently means 70% sure! |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I just tried that bit on 'what would the sea be called without Japan' and came up with nothing. A girl I know answered thus: "Why, it would be called the Eat Sea!" Perhaps she was distracted. |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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When was this war over fishing rights? When was the last time Korea and Japan went to war for that matter? Japanese imperialism was scarcely about fishing rights or even feeding it's people...and the occupation that started in 1905 wasn't a war...so..... when was this war?
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Do some research and find out about a little thing called the "Imjin War."
The Koreans have a bad taste in their mouths about the Japanese for a reason. |
Dude,
The Imjin wars happened in the 1500's. That's my point exactly...they haven't gone to war with Japan officially since that time...and even then it wasn't about fishing rights or feeding their people. My point is that today, in the present world political climate, going to war over something like fishing rights is as (if not more) asinine than going to war over oil rights. |
If someone steam rolled your country, burnt it to the ground, killed off over a quarter of the population, raped your women, and collected the noses of the dead, you'd still be bitter about it 500 years later. |
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Ryst Helmut
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I just tried that bit on 'what would the sea be called without Japan' and came up with nothing. A girl I know answered thus: "Why, it would be called the Eat Sea!" Perhaps she was distracted. |
Good on ya'....and the Truth shall set them free!
!shoosh
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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The mystery remains why this is being done in English classes. The kids wouldn't understand much of the English and wouldn't be able to express much.
Is the real target the teachers? Or demand that the kids can express it in English so they can 'explain' it to other foreigners?
Pretty odd, whatever is going on. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I think they're just wanting to control what's being said in the classroom. hahaha. Obviously, they hold that their view is the only possible viewpoint.
I don't know anything else about it from the Japanese side.
What exactly is the Japanese side?
For all I've heard, this all started because of a textbook in 3 Japanese schools? And all of Korea is trying to blow it up to a huge deal. |
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thebum
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| The way a people think obviously affects everything, including their own ability to change. Education reform has always been on the cards, but there is still much conservatism. The fact is, though, that the current system fails to meet the needs of modern Korea because it does not train people to think in a sufficiently rational and legalistic way. Korean negotiators in international forums often look rather silly and end up making emotional appeals rather than reasoned arguments. A case in point is a current territorial dispute between Korea and Japan. Centuries of mutual dislike seems to have coagulated around the question of who owns a small uninhabited rock between the two, called Tok-do by the Koreans and Takeshima by the Japanese. The Koreans have by far the better case. Japan gave up all sovereignty rights over Korea at the end of the Second World War, but claims that the rock became Japanese just before formal annexation in 1910. This is a piece of legal trickery because Japanese domination of Korean affairs, through 'advisers' in government offices, began in 1905. With a bit of research the Koreans could have found out the name of a Japanese adviser who arranged the transfer of the rock and made a perfectly reasoned case that fell into the category of claims that Japan abandoned in 1945. Instead, they made an emotional, table-thumping response and whipped up a frenzy or nationalistic bluster which featured boatloads of patriotic students, poets, you-name-it, wearing headbands with slogans on them, clambering up on the rock and liberating it for the fatherland. |
From the book "The Koreans" (1998), by Michael Bree. This is quoted from page 27. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| The way a people think obviously affects everything, including their own ability to change. Education reform has always been on the cards, but there is still much conservatism. The fact is, though, that the current system fails to meet the needs of modern Korea because it does not train people to think in a sufficiently rational and legalistic way. Korean negotiators in international forums often look rather silly and end up making emotional appeals rather than reasoned arguments. A case in point is a current territorial dispute between Korea and Japan. Centuries of mutual dislike seems to have coagulated around the question of who owns a small uninhabited rock between the two, called Tok-do by the Koreans and Takeshima by the Japanese. The Koreans have by far the better case. Japan gave up all sovereignty rights over Korea at the end of the Second World War, but claims that the rock became Japanese just before formal annexation in 1910. This is a piece of legal trickery because Japanese domination of Korean affairs, through 'advisers' in government offices, began in 1905. With a bit of research the Koreans could have found out the name of a Japanese adviser who arranged the transfer of the rock and made a perfectly reasoned case that fell into the category of claims that Japan abandoned in 1945. Instead, they made an emotional, table-thumping response and whipped up a frenzy or nationalistic bluster which featured boatloads of patriotic students, poets, you-name-it, wearing headbands with slogans on them, clambering up on the rock and liberating it for the fatherland. |
From the book "The Koreans" (1998), by Michael Bree. This is quoted from page 27. |
Whew! Thank goodness we don't have to see those headbands! It's much nicer to see a photo of a bloody grandma with a severed finger on the front page of the newspaper! |
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Circus Monkey
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: In my coconut tree
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| I'm waiting for an ancient Korean map that claims all of North America. Then I guess we'll have to give it back. |
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