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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: two more subway incidents today Reply with quote

I was riding the green #2 line today.. when an older Korean guy about 40 years started asking me 'where I was from?'.. I told him the States.. and then he said he got his MBA in Pennsylvania.. and we continued to have a really enjoyable conversation for a good 30 minutes.. and then he got off his stop.

Then if that wasn't enough.. later on the green #2 line homeward bound.. yet another Korean guy also around 40 years old was offering me his seat.. and telling me that foreigner have priority.. I declined.. and then he asked me where I was from.. shortly thereafer he started showing me pictures of his travels and friends he does business with in Pakistan and India. I left that train at my stop and took his business card too.
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cellphone



Joined: 18 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so?
Koreans occasionally turn on their flirtation switch, are we not supposed to talk about when they turn on the rambunctious switch, or more realistically that it's regularly on automatic? writing the posts you did above would give an even more unrealistic long term impression of Korea than the 'opposing' posts you are obviously ridiculing.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think so Cellphone.

I think tiger is providing a view from the other side of the coin.

If anything is unrealistic or unbalanced it is the view one gets about Korea from online forums. That view my friend is so far tilted to the negative side that it becomes laughable.
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UnJef



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, can we try for a moment to be positive about this place? Yes, it's different from home. Yes, there are cultural differences. What did you expect?

I have been living in Korea for over a year now, and I have been an intermittent poster/browser on/of this forum. The only constant I have noticed on this board is the overwhelming negativity about South Korea that it contains. Why are you here if you hate it so much? Go home! Stop complaining, for the love of god. Did you come to Korea so you could complain about the cultural differences, or did you come here to embrace the differences and learn from them?

My twenty won.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cellphone wrote:
so?
Koreans occasionally turn on their flirtation switch, are we not supposed to talk about when they turn on the rambunctious switch, or more realistically that it's regularly on automatic? writing the posts you did above would give an even more unrealistic long term impression of Korea than the 'opposing' posts you are obviously ridiculing.

They were both real incidents on the subway today. I didn't make them up to make Korea look good.

They happen all the time. But most of the time I shut my mind to the Koreans trying to be friendly.. I didn't today though. Instead of just answering (or ignoring or being annoyed by) their friendly questions, I countered by asking them questions about themselves instead (just like I would to any foreigner).. and actually had very interesting conversations.

Hey it was a sunny day today.. why not!

(I'll try to think back to a bad experience and post it on a negative thread later if you want).
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnJef wrote:
Seriously, can we try for a moment to be positive about this place? Yes, it's different from home. Yes, there are cultural differences. What did you expect?

I have been living in Korea for over a year now, and I have been an intermittent poster/browser on/of this forum. The only constant I have noticed on this board is the overwhelming negativity about South Korea that it contains. Why are you here if you hate it so much? Go home! Stop complaining, for the love of god. Did you come to Korea so you could complain about the cultural differences, or did you come here to embrace the differences and learn from them?

My twenty won.


Yes, accept everything. Life is perfect in the ROK. Rolling Eyes

Dude, come on.. Relax.

Why don't you apply the same logic to yourself? Why come to this forum if the negativity bothers you?
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Randall Flagg



Joined: 01 Oct 2004
Location: Talkin' trash to the garbage around you

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
UnJef wrote:
Seriously, can we try for a moment to be positive about this place? Yes, it's different from home. Yes, there are cultural differences. What did you expect?

I have been living in Korea for over a year now, and I have been an intermittent poster/browser on/of this forum. The only constant I have noticed on this board is the overwhelming negativity about South Korea that it contains. Why are you here if you hate it so much? Go home! Stop complaining, for the love of god. Did you come to Korea so you could complain about the cultural differences, or did you come here to embrace the differences and learn from them?

My twenty won.


Yes, accept everything. Life is perfect in the ROK. Rolling Eyes

Dude, come on.. Relax.

Why don't you apply the same logic to yourself? Why come to this forum if the negativity bothers you?


Accept everything? Yes. You're certainly not gonna change anything.

Life is perfect here? No. But then again he never said it was.

Its one thing to come here and read the negativity and its something completely different to add to it on a daily basis. So far I don't see Unjef adding to it. Is there really something wrong with that?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Its one thing to come here and read the negativity and its something completely different to add to it on a daily basis. So far I don't see Unjef adding to it. Is there really something wrong with that?


Very well put. I completely agree with that. Very Happy
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i too have recently added a long commute to my day and have had nothing but GREAT contact wih the people around me (ok, I have had lots of contact that was minimal. like people trying to sleep on my shoulder).
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: two more subway incidents today Reply with quote

Ha. I thought you were going to complain about being abused on the subway. It was nice to read. I had a mother and her two cute little daughters practising their english with me. I was glad to help. With all the bad press about male english teachers and the sewer we're apparently creating in the heart of Korea, it's good to represent in public.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cellphone wrote:
so?
Koreans occasionally turn on their flirtation switch, are we not supposed to talk about when they turn on the rambunctious switch, or more realistically that it's regularly on automatic? writing the posts you did above would give an even more unrealistic long term impression of Korea than the 'opposing' posts you are obviously ridiculing.


Yes, but those incidents are far more coomon, if less "newsworthy" than of the "I was stared at on the subway" or "Why is the seat next to me empty" ilk.

The long-tern impression of subway travel is positive. - even at rush-hour!
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: two more subway incidents today Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
.. and telling me that foreigner have priority


Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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UnJef



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
UnJef wrote:
Seriously, can we try for a moment to be positive about this place? Yes, it's different from home. Yes, there are cultural differences. What did you expect?

I have been living in Korea for over a year now, and I have been an intermittent poster/browser on/of this forum. The only constant I have noticed on this board is the overwhelming negativity about South Korea that it contains. Why are you here if you hate it so much? Go home! Stop complaining, for the love of god. Did you come to Korea so you could complain about the cultural differences, or did you come here to embrace the differences and learn from them?

My twenty won.


Yes, accept everything. Life is perfect in the ROK. :roll:

Dude, come on.. Relax.

Why don't you apply the same logic to yourself? Why come to this forum if the negativity bothers you?


This response was disturbingly predictable, as was the eye roll.

Did I say life is perfect in the ROK?

Yes, accept everything and try and find some positivity in it. Or, be negative and critical of this place and the people in it so you can continue to feel culturally superior.

Your choice, dude.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my response was predictable... and yours defined originality.

I'll elaborate.

You said:


Quote:
Seriously, can we try for a moment to be positive about this place?


And what do you know, that's what the OP's post was all about. Instead of going, "Hey, what do you know? thanks man, blah blah blah.." you focus on the one guy that writes something a negative about korea. Kinda like the people you're whining about on this forum. I just found it to be a bit hypocritical.
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UnJef



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
my response was predictable... and yours defined originality.

I'll elaborate.

You said:


Quote:
Seriously, can we try for a moment to be positive about this place?


And what do you know, that's what the OP's post was all about. Instead of going, "Hey, what do you know? thanks man, blah blah blah.." you focus on the one guy that writes something a negative about korea. Kinda like the people you're whining about on this forum. I just found it to be a bit hypocritical.


Ok, point taken.

What I was responding to was the fact that here was (finally) a positive post on Korea, and the first response was "so?"

I know that there have been other positive posts on Korea in here, but they are generally swallowed up by the incessant negativity.

Am I whining? I didn't realize.
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