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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Kim Tae-hyo, politics professor at Sungkyunkwan University, said yesterday, "Ultimately, I mean after reunification, it is partly right for Korea to ally with China. But currently, Korea has more to lose if it openly declares such a foreign policy."
I betcha that in 20 years, some nationalist Americans will be blaming other Americans for "losing Korea" to China. |
99.99% of Americans couldn't give a rats ass about Korea -- be it North or South.
And those .01 percent of Americans who do are probably ethnnic Koreans and former war veterans, who are dying off quickly.
The rest of the US could really care less about this place.
Those back home who learn about the situation here via the news want the US to pull out. Why waste our time here? The SK's don't want us, and hold demonstrations against us. It costs us money to be here.
Americans don't view China as this "major evil" as many non-Americans suspect. You might forget that we were allies before the Communism thing happened. And since then, we've grown close to China economically. Americans don't hate China -- hardly. It's a land of great food, culture, and interesting movie characters.
We do, however, laugh at foreigner attempts to blindly rally behind any country -- no matter what atrocities they've committed or are committing -- sheerly because they might have a snowballs chance in hell of challenging the USA in some way.
This is all so very funny, because foreigners love to rip on the USA for everything from "imperialism" to environmental problems. At the same time, they root for China -- a country who, in the future, will be far more dangerous to those countries around it (be it Taiwan or South Korea). And China is HORRIBLE when it comes to environmental problems.
When China starts throwing its weight around in the region, countries like Korean are going to wish they'd been a little nicer to the country responsible for their propped-up lifestyle of big-screen TVs, cars, and make-up clad dancing pop-stars.
Go ahead, Korea... throw your support to China.
And watch your country swallowed up and erased from existence like it were an out-of-date textbook. |
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Intrepid
Joined: 13 May 2004
Location: Yongin
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject: A worldwide "footprint" |
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| I agree that US troops won't be pulling out while the neocons are in control. I hope that situation (the neocons and US presence in S. Korea) changes soon. |
But I don't think it's just the neocons (as much as I hate them). This is more the "military industrial complex" of which Eisenhower warned (and helped to set up).
Chalmers Johnson writes on the US "imperial network," about which citizens seem to know so little. What are we doing in Kyrgystan, anyway?
I've read Johnson in more well-known places, before, so I'll include this link:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0115-08.htm |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Americans don't view China as this "major evil" as many non-Americans suspect. You might forget that we were allies before the Communism thing happened. And since then, we've grown close to China economically. Americans don't hate China -- hardly. It's a land of great food, culture, and interesting movie characters.
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I don't think your assessment of Americans' view of China is altogether accurate.
For those who pay any attention to it at all, a goodly portion want a policy of containment. It has been openly discussed. It may explain why the US is buddying up to India and Russia, not to mention the 'Stans' in Central Asia.
Some are aware that China holds a huge pile of dollars.
Enough are sure they don't want the EU to sell weapons to China that Bush was not criticized for pushing that in his European trip. The reason was China may use the weapons against the US military at some point in the future.
Others are not happy at the high price of oil these days and attribute it to the rapidly growing Chinese consumption.
The other part of your post is right. There is something peculiar about otherwise reasonable people who are rooting for a world dominated by the non-democratic China. They like to say China was never expansionist. Apparantly they think Tibet, Mongolia, Manchuria and all the other ethnic minorities in the Empire voluntarily joined because of an overwhelming desire for stir fry. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Others are not happy at the high price of oil these days and attribute it to the rapidly growing Chinese consumption. |
The high price of oil hurts China more than any other economy by far. (I have read literature suggesting that Bush went to Iraq in a bid to destablise the price of oil and thus hit the Chinese in the balls) I don't happen to believe that though. It's Bobsteresque. |
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Vince
Joined: 05 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: A worldwide "footprint" |
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| But I don't think it's just the neocons (as much as I hate them). This is more the "military industrial complex" of which Eisenhower warned (and helped to set up). |
I agree that it isn't just the neocons, but my point is that they are the least likely to move toward an end to the current alliance between the US and S. Korea.
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| Chalmers Johnson writes on the US "imperial network," about which citizens seem to know so little. |
I read Blowback and one of his articles about Vietnam. I don't have anywhere near his academic credentials, but found lots of problems with his work. He seems awfully close to the Blame America First school. But he does make some excellent points along the way. |
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Vince
Joined: 05 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, Canada has never done anything bad to Korea. |
Yep, Canada has never done anything good or bad for any country. It's the Land of No Opinion. |
More power to them. |
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