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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Behold: It's RRR! Real Reality Revolution!
Tenure at UBC
Candidates for appointment, reappointment, tenure or promotion, other than Instructor 1's, are judged principally on performance in both teaching and in scholarly activity. Service to the academic profession, to the University, and to the community will be taken into account...
http://www.facultyrelations.ubc.ca/faculty/tenure.htm#criteria
Judgement of scholarly activity is based mainly on the quality and significance of an individual's contribution.
Evidence of scholarly activity varies among the disciplines. Published work is, where appropriate, the primary evidence. Such evidence as distinguished architectural, artistic or engineering design, distinguished performance in the arts or professional fields, shall be considered in appropriate cases.
For the scholarship of teaching, scholarly activity may be evidenced by originality or innovation, demonstrable impact in a particular field or discipline, peer reviews, dissemination in the public domain, or substantial and sustained use by others. For example, textbooks and curriculum reform that changed academic understanding or made a significant contribution to the way in which a discipline or field is taught might constitute useful evidence of the scholarship of teaching whereas textbooks or curriculum revision of a routine nature would not.
http://www.facultyrelations.ubc.ca/faculty/tenure.htm#scholar
c) Service to the University and the Community
This includes service performed for the benefit of Departments, Faculties, the Centre for Continuing Education, or other parts of the University (including the Faculty Association), and for professional organizations and the community at large. Such service might include administrative or supervisory work, service on committees and university bodies, all continuing education activity in the community including professional education, special work with professional, technical, scholarly or other organizations or with scholarly publications not falling within the definition of scholarly activity, membership on or service to governmental or public councils and boards, and other forms of academic, professional, and public service.
http://www.facultyrelations.ubc.ca/faculty/tenure.htm#service
How many people who were claimed to have been wrong would have been award tenure for their same actions back home? What community involvement have they done? What research or publshed works they did accomplish? Generally, it's nothing.
And punching a clock should not enough to earn tenure.
Before you hit me with your link about professors attaching their names to the works of others, please note that such an activity is sadly common back home as well and at least they took the time to make sure their name turned on something plagerized or falsely credited to them which is more than most people accomplish when working at universities here. Sadly, research and publishing works has not been embraced by Korean universities. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Gord,
Canada is the same as Korea?
Minimum Salary Scale for Sessional Lecturers
Full-Time Load: 6 Credits
8 months full-time: $29,316
http://www.hr.ubc.ca/faculty_relations/compensation/salaries/sessional/2001/scale2.html
Please post the salary scale for a popular Korean university.
Why not say the United States is the same as Korea?
from the American Association of University Professors
The 1940 Statement of Principles on Academic Freedom and Tenure, jointly authored by the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) and the Association of American Colleges,... Upon continuance of full-time service beyond the maximum probationary period, faculty members who so serve should be recognized as having an entitlement to the procedural safeguards that accrue with tenure, even in the absence of institutional regulations to that effect or of specific action by a particular college or university. Courts have noted the adoption of that AAUP policy by universities:
Northwestern University adheres to the principles of the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) regarding the de facto grant of tenure. Tenure . . . is acquired de facto in the seventh year of a faculty member's full-time service in the tenure-accumulating ranks, unless the faculty member receives notice during the sixth year that the seventh year of employment will be "terminal." Tenure de facto is automatic. It is conferred without a tenure review solely by reason of the faculty member's appointment.
http://www.aaup.org/Legal/info%20outlines/legdften.htm
... Beginning with appointment to the rank of full-time instructor or a higher rank, the probationary period should not exceed seven years,... Notice should be given at least one year prior to the expiration of the probationary period if the teacher is not to be continued in service after the expiration of that period.
Endorsers
Association of American Colleges and Universities 1941
American Association of University Professors 1941
American Library Association (adapted for librarians) 1946
Association of American Law Schools 1946
American Political Science Association 1947
American Association of Colleges for Teacher Education 1950
American Association for Higher Education 1950
Eastern Psychological Association 1950
Southern Society for Philosophy and Psychology 1953
American Psychological Association 1961
American Historical Association 1961
Modern Language Association of America 1962
American Economic Association 1962
American Agricultural Economics Association 1962
Midwest Sociological Society 1963
Organization of American Historians 1963
American Philological Association 1963
American Council of Learned Societies 1963
Speech Communication Association 1963
American Sociological Association 1963....
http://www.aaup.org/statements/Redbook/1940stat.htm |
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jaykimf
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
| Tenure . . . is acquired de facto in the seventh year of a faculty member's full-time service in the tenure-accumulating ranks, unless the faculty member receives notice during the sixth year that the seventh year of employment will be "terminal." |
The tenure-accumulating ranks do not include adjunct instructors.
The following is from the U.S. Dept. of Labor 's Occupational Outlook Handbook:
"Faculty keep abreast of developments in their field by reading current literature, talking with colleagues, and participating in professional conferences. They may also do their own research to expand knowledge in their field. They may perform experiments; collect and analyze data; and examine original documents, literature, and other source material. From this process, they arrive at conclusions, and publish their findings in scholarly journals, books, and electronic media."
"Most faculty members serve on academic or administrative committees that deal with the policies of their institution, departmental matters, academic issues, curricula, budgets, equipment purchases, and hiring. Some work with student and community organizations. Department chairpersons are faculty members who usually teach some courses but have heavier administrative responsibilities."
"University faculty may experience a conflict between their responsibilities to teach students and the pressure to do research and publish their findings. This may be a particular problem for young faculty seeking advancement in 4-year research universities. Also, recent cutbacks and the hiring of more part-time faculty have put a greater administrative burden on full-time faculty."
"Four-year colleges and universities usually consider doctoral degree holders for full-time, tenure-track positions, but may hire master��s degree holders or doctoral candidates for certain disciplines, such as the arts, or for part-time and temporary jobs. Most college and university faculty are in four academic ranks—professor, associate professor, assistant professor, and instructor. These positions usually are considered to be tenure-track positions. Most faculty members are hired as instructors or assistant professors. A smaller number of additional faculty members, called lecturers, are usually employed on contracts for a single academic term and are not on the tenure track."
"Many adjunct faculty are not qualified for tenure-track positions because they lack a doctoral degree."
"The number of tenure-track positions is expected to decline as institutions seek flexibility in dealing with financial matters and changing student interests. Institutions will rely more heavily on limited term contracts and part-time, or adjunct, faculty, thus shrinking the total pool of tenured faculty. In a trend that is expected to continue, some institutions now offer limited-term contracts to prospective faculty—typically 2-, 3-, or 5-year, full-time contracts. These contracts may be terminated or extended when they expire. Institutions are not obligated to grant tenure to the contract holders. In addition, some institutions have limited the percentage of faculty who can be tenured."
"competition will remain tight for those seeking tenure-track positions at 4-year colleges and universities, as many of the job openings are expected to be either part-time or renewable, term appointments."
"Earnings for college faculty vary according to rank and type of institution, geographic area, and field. According to a 2002-03 survey by the American Association of University Professors, salaries for full-time faculty averaged $64,455. By rank, the average was $86,437 for professors, $61,732 for associate professors, $51,545 for assistant professors, $37,737 for instructors, and $43,914 for lecturers. Faculty in 4-year institutions earn higher salaries, on average, than do those in 2-year schools. In 2002-03, average faculty salaries in public institutions—$63,974—were lower than those in private independent institutions—$74,359—but higher than those in religiously affiliated private colleges and universities—$57,564. In fields with high-paying nonacademic alternatives—medicine, law, engineering, and business, among others—earnings exceed these averages. In others—such as the humanities and education—they are lower."
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos066.htm
"The study also noted the sharp rise in faculty jobs that were not on the tenure track at all: to 7,792 slots in 2003 from 4,266 slots in 1993. The 83 percent increase far outstripped the growth in other faculty jobs. Such jobs represented less than a third of the Ivy faculty in 1993 but climbed to 45 percent by 2003.
The nontenure-track jobs, which carry titles like lecturer, instructor or researcher, generally pay less and provide fewer benefits, if any. They are usually short-term, and involve heavier teaching loads, the report said, even though they often require a doctorate. Blacks and women hold higher proportions of these jobs than of the tenure-track positions."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/01/education/01college.html |
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nrvs
Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: standing upright on a curve
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, Gord, it's nice that you're posting again. I feel honored to be addressed by your first few replies since last year.
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| Could you cite an example of where a foreign expert in a given field was denied tenure at a Korean university while a lesser qualified citizen was promoted to such a job? I am genuinely curious to see an example of this xenophobia in action. |
From the E-1 visa description itself: In the case of a national or a public University, a foreigner is not permitted to be a full-time professor. So yes, I'm certain a qualified foreigner has been passed over in favor of a Korean national at some point. Not even that; a foreigner hasn't even been considered, because the exclusion is written into Korea's immigration regulations. Why must I provide an example?
It's unfortunate that foreigners are prohibited from full-time employment at government-funded Korean universities. Any foreigner, any field, no matter how publications or books or presentations or years in the classroom. I'm not whining about some hagwon hack who gets a correspondence MA and wants to step up into the "big time" so she can take more paid holidays in Thailand. I'm concerned about real, qualified professors.
Some of my finest professors at my university (albeit not government-funded, but it could've been) were foreign nationals -- even Koreans. Even in a country as large as the United States, the government recognizes the necessity of foreign academics, and doesn't hinder them with xenophobic visa regulations.
So here I will provide you with your example. In my third year of school, I had the pleasure of taking a database management course with Dr. Il-yeol Song. His English wasn't perfect, but this man's expertise was apparent. He wrote the book for our class. I remember spending hours in his spacious office with other students in my workgroup, making sure our project's ERDs were properly drawn. In the end, he made the course very challenging, but I still obtained an A. Could an American born-and-bred professor have done a better job, purely on the basis of her nationality? Absolutely not.
The idea that Dr. Song might've been turned down for his full "Professor" position at my university because of U.S. immigration regulations is, thankfully, laughable. It's a shame that Korea is still such a closed society. The Korean government would rather cripple its government-funded universities -- and the students attending these universities -- rather than allow foreigners full-time positions.
It's not difficult to see why many young Koreans would rather study abroad (I'll leave the links to Real Reality  ). |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Monthly salary of 5,000,000 won? |
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Perhaps those working in Universities are only adjunct instructers teaching as little as 12 hours a week or less and getting up to 5 months paid vacations.
Perhaps if you are unhappy with your contract, you should ask yourself why you signed it.
Perhaps if you want a higher paying job, you should apply for one.
Perhaps if you can't find a better job in Korea, you should ask yourself why you choose to remain in Korea instead of going to whatever country you think has better opportunities.
Perhaps if you can't find a better position anywhere in the world, you should be grateful for the opportunity you have in Korea. |
Perhaps I'm staying because I've been completely ripped off by my most recent Korean employer and want to try to get back what he owes me. What would you do, go run home to your mommy and daddy? I don't have enough money to go anywhere abroad due to the most common practice of Koreans, ripping off Foreign employees because they know their own government or almost anybody else don't give a snuffs A**!!! Quit even trying to compare Korea with the U.S.A. as you did concerning "adjunct college positions." Your reaching waaaaay too far for any argument. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Last month, the Prosecutors' Office in the southwestern city of Jeonju indicted a total of 29 professors, arresting five, on charges of awarding master's or doctorate degrees to doctors in return for money. The going price for a master's degree was 5 million won and a doctorate 15 million won, according to the prosecutor.
Investigators said the professors were accused of being paid to conduct lab research and write theses for degree hopefuls - usually doctors who operated their own clinics. Experts say many doctors seek an advanced degree because the certificate can be attractive to a clinic. "A doctor with a doctorate sounds great to patients," said a professor at Hanyang University Medical Center on condition of anonymity.
Five universities, including Chunbook National University and Kyung Hee University, were involved in the scandal and 198 doctors were given frauduleant certificates, the investigator said.
Education Ministry cracks down on 'degree business'
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2005/04/05/200504050003.asp |
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big_blue_21
Joined: 02 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:46 am Post subject: yeah, that's a little high . . . |
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| Yeah, I haven't heard of anyone making that much . . . probably for an HI (Head Instructor position) or Assistant Branch manager position. It could also be for a position with their Master's program where they really haul in the dough. Myself, I get about 4.2, 4.3 working 27 hours a week. PM me if you'd lke anymore info . . . |
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