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Koreabound2004
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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 Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject: Best place to teach outside of Korea |
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Thinking about which country to teach in next, but I can't seem to find a better deal...any suggestions?
Japan... cost of living...earthquakes/typhoons
Taiwan... start up hassles... may be attacked by China soon........ 
SE Asia.... nice scenery, no money.....
China...no money
Middle East...not qualified enough for most jobs, cost of living, security
Europe...no money
S. America...no money
Africa...low demand, no money
Maybe Korea provides such a good deal, b/c it's so *Beep* to live here.
Thoughts? |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, the Korean culture is its own worst enemy. |
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animalbirdfish
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Thoughts on Chile?
Anyone have any experience there? |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: |
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I hear Vietnam pays about $1400 a month, alittle less than Korea, but similar in salary.
Anyone have thoughts on that? |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| lastat06513 wrote: |
I hear Vietnam pays about $1400 a month, alittle less than Korea, but similar in salary.
Anyone have thoughts on that? |
I taught in Vietnam for about six months. As far as making cash is concerned, lets just say that it's the hidden secret of Asia and leave it at that. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:10 am Post subject: Re: Best place to teach outside of Korea |
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| Koreabound2004 wrote: |
SE Asia.... nice scenery, no money.....
Europe...no money
S. America...no money |
If you have a CELTA and years of experience you could get a sweet paying job at top institutes in these areas. I've seen job ads for Thailand and Malaysia that pays $2,000 U.S. a month for the fully qualified they require. I've heard there are similar good paying jobs in Turkey and the British Council/International House jobs in South America.
With experience and a little luck you could land a good job in Shanghai. I know someone making more than me there!
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| Maybe Korea provides such a good deal, b/c it's so *Beep* to live here. |
Sounds like you're ready to look into opportunities elsewhere. |
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inthewild
Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| buddy bradley wrote: |
| I taught in Vietnam for about six months. As far as making cash is concerned, lets just say that it's the hidden secret of Asia and leave it at that. |
Since you've lived there, any more opinions/info you can pass on? Or maybe you already did in a previous thread that I didn't find with the search... 
Or anyone with opinions on Vietnam for that matter. |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I too am possibly looking at Vietnam next year or certainly considering it. You could look at the International job forums for more information. They also have links there for various other forums. I think [url]www.Mekongesl.com [/url]is one site. |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Hong Kong? |
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Rock
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:05 am Post subject: |
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Koreabound, I think you might want to consider the standards of living in these other places. Korea does have a higher standard of living than most of the SE Asian countries. This is what had attracted me to come back here.
Believe it or not, SE Asian countries would never offer, in my opinion, the salary Korea would. The average for Thailand may be about 30,000 baht, maybe higher now. You have to put up with a lot more conniving and less of a package deal than you have in Korea.
These people, too, have a much more desperate life(this including Taiwan,) and will be just as ruthless and cunning. Your best bet, unless you get an MA, would be to tackle one of the Japan programs.
Everyone seems to be looking for greener money on the other side. What I was looking for was sound employment, and you won't find this in Taiwan. The culture in Taiwan I can't begin to fathom, it's got so much bs to it(beauracratic you know what.) Look on Dave's job information journal to give you a taste of what the other places are like. |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| NateTeaches wrote: |
| buddy bradley wrote: |
| I taught in Vietnam for about six months. As far as making cash is concerned, lets just say that it's the hidden secret of Asia and leave it at that. |
Since you've lived there, any more opinions/info you can pass on? Or maybe you already did in a previous thread that I didn't find with the search...
Or anyone with opinions on Vietnam for that matter. |
I wrote a ton of stuff on the "other" Korean message board and don't intend to repeat it here.
Sorry. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| animalbirdfish wrote: |
Thoughts on Chile?
Anyone have any experience there? |
Yeah, I spent 15 days there on the ground there looking for work. That was 1998.
Santiago is a cool climate and very mountain-type town. I liked it. On the negative side, Chile is actually quite conservative compared to anywhere else in South America. Its also probably one of the more boring capital cities in South America.
On the plus side, its also very relaxing (which most South American capital cities are exciting, they are also a bit dangerous) - Santiago is not really all that exciting comparitively. On the plus side, again to the contrast of the rest of the continent, the people are genuinely REALLY friendly and sincere without much fear of someone trying to steal from you or whatever else (which is something you deal with much more often again elsewhere in the more exciting capital cities of South America).
Regarding work.. I went around to every English school I could find in Chile.. most didn't seem to have anything immediately available. One school told me they ONLY hire people who are appling IN North America.. as opposed to those who travel through.
In short, I hung around 15 days (without a contact phone number), staying in a hostel, and hitting various schools around the city without any luck. So if you want to go, save your money and get an apartment and have enough to get by for at least a month or two until something comes up! The other thing I didn't like, was at that time, the best school I found paid equivalent to $10/hour.. and the others around $7-8/hour or so.. yet at the same time, Chile has one of the stronger (and more expensive) economies compared to most other countries on the continent!
In short, its a place you should really go to after you've paid off any outstanding debts from elsewhere. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Re. Vietnam. You almost have to be there first to find EFL work. Very little advertising. No recruiters it seems. You could just show up at places wearing your shirt and tie and hand in resumes. I fon't know if there are really many good full-time jobs available there. So many people were working several part-time jobs to get the hours. That means you got to try to get a sane schedule at several places hopefully not too far apart. Commuting around HCMC is not much fun. It's dangerous. |
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Koreabound2004
Joined: 19 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| jajdude wrote: |
| Re. Vietnam. You almost have to be there first to find EFL work. Very little advertising. No recruiters it seems. You could just show up at places wearing your shirt and tie and hand in resumes. I fon't know if there are really many good full-time jobs available there. So many people were working several part-time jobs to get the hours. That means you got to try to get a sane schedule at several places hopefully not too far apart. Commuting around HCMC is not much fun. It's dangerous. |
Thinking about checking out Vietnam this summer, how is travelling in HCMC dangerous....traffic, potential for robbery?
Can you elaborate please? |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreabound2004 wrote: |
| jajdude wrote: |
| Re. Vietnam. You almost have to be there first to find EFL work. Very little advertising. No recruiters it seems. You could just show up at places wearing your shirt and tie and hand in resumes. I fon't know if there are really many good full-time jobs available there. So many people were working several part-time jobs to get the hours. That means you got to try to get a sane schedule at several places hopefully not too far apart. Commuting around HCMC is not much fun. It's dangerous. |
Thinking about checking out Vietnam this summer, how is travelling in HCMC dangerous....traffic, potential for robbery?
Can you elaborate please? |
No more dangerous than other SE Asian Countries. I would say that traffic is worse than Hanoi and Bangkok, in the fact that the moto drivers present more of a danger to pedestrians and other non-experienced riders. As far as robberies, I definately felt safer in Saigon than I did in certain parts of Phnom Pehn and Bangkok. Then again, it all depends on being the at the wrong place at the wrong time. |
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